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My next build.

Discussion in 'Electric Smokers' started by Steve H, Mar 11, 2019.

  1. Steve H

    Steve H Smoking Fanatic SMF Premier Member

    I'm still collecting the goodies I need for this. The Landmann Smoky Mountain electric smoker will be here Wednesday. My InkBird PID came today. Now I need to get an enclosure for the controls now that I know what size I'll need. This should be fun!

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  2. buzzy

    buzzy Smoking Fanatic OTBS Member

    Keep the pics coming.
     
  3. tallbm

    tallbm Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    Best of luck on the enclosure hahaha :emoji_laughing:

    For me the most complicated ordeal of building my PID controller setup was figuring out the enclosure.
    I wanted something I could ground against while having enough space and NOT costing an arm and a leg... options are slim :emoji_angry:

    I think you may have better luck since they make enclosures that fit PID's like your Inkbird where I am using the HeaterMeter and there is no such enclosure to house it, the heat sink, the SSR, etc.

    Please do share with us the enclosure that you land on, and best of luck with it all, PIDs are awesome!
     
  4. I would be interested in what enclosure you use and also some wiring help.....I have an inkbird but Im not 100% on the wiring.
    Thanks
    Jack
     
  5. Steve H

    Steve H Smoking Fanatic SMF Premier Member

    I'll keep you all informed.
     
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  6. Steve H

    Steve H Smoking Fanatic SMF Premier Member

    I'm wondering if I can get away with leaving the OEM controller plugged into the smoker, leave it set at the highest setting. And have the PID in series with it. It should be ok. If not, I'll by pass it completely.
     
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  7. tallbm

    tallbm Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    I believe Auber plug and play PIDs do exactly like you are asking about.
    I believe you put the analog controller wide open, plug the chord into the Auber PID, then the Auber PID into the wall and you are ready to rock :)

    No need to rewire.
     
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  8. Steve H

    Steve H Smoking Fanatic SMF Premier Member

    Thanks. I thought that would be the case.
     
  9. Steve H

    Steve H Smoking Fanatic SMF Premier Member

    Smoker arrived and put it together. Not a bad little unit. Though it is not double walled as some reviews said it was. No big deal. I can get it insulated if need be.

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  10. tallbm

    tallbm Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    Nice!
    Yeah insulating it with a welding blanket or something to that extent may greatly help the PID manage a steady temperature.
     
  11. Steve H

    Steve H Smoking Fanatic SMF Premier Member

    Got the PID built. Now to install on smoker and break everything in.

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    Got that darn electrical napalm (heat sink compound) all over the place!


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    I'm using the work light as a load for the SSR. Also, this unit is in Centigrade. So I made a little cheat sheet. The enclosure is a BUD aluminum 6x5x4 snap box.
     
  12. chopsaw

    chopsaw Master of the Pit OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    You're gonna like that . Can you set it to step up in temp ? Been using the Auber 1500 on my 30 , its awesome .
     
  13. Steve H

    Steve H Smoking Fanatic SMF Premier Member

    No, this doesn't step up. I didn't give that a thought when I bought this,. I can swap it out later if I want. From all I've heard. I should like it.
     
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  14. tallbm

    tallbm Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    That looks good, nice work!
    Once you get your setup sorted out with the PID, I'm positive you are going to love it! :)
     
  15. Very nice mod you have there... I wonder, do you have extra
    set of normally closed contacts on your PID which may be used to step up temp....
     
  16. Steve H

    Steve H Smoking Fanatic SMF Premier Member

    Not on this unit. Just one output for the SSR. And one output for an alarm. This unit, while getting a lot of great reviews. Is pretty basic. I will probably get a more featured unit later.
     
  17. What if you use alarm output as step up temp and SP value for SSR... meaning: heater ON latch itself up to alarm point, needs reset and with additional relay in line with SSR, SP point output should , afterwards, regulate desired temperature.... just a thought....
     
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  18. Steve H

    Steve H Smoking Fanatic SMF Premier Member

    That would work. But I have no room for another relay, SSR or otherwise. Cool thought though. InkBird has a timer set up for four step ups that goes inline with the main PID control. I'm thinking about that. Though I would have to get a bigger enclosure. Something to think about for later.
     
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  19. look at current value for PID internal relay... I don't think it is rated for your total heaters current consumption but you never know.... anyway, you can stack second SSR on top of the SP value SSR if you have enough space... I would hate to see you toss what you have now and spend extra money for replacement. . extra money could go towards big, fat juicy chunk of meat to play with...
     
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