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Thanks mrbeef! I ain't giving up just yet, that was my frustration talking. I'm taking my next one off between 190 and 195, and hoping for the best.Don't give up. Anyone that smokes brisket knows it can be difficult. I've over cooked more then I've cooked perfect. I've got most of my briskets from Walmart aswell and gonna try other places now. Keep up the good work!