Home made BBQ sauce,why use ketchup?

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I have a friend who is allergic to tomatoes. He can (and does) eat BBQ sauce, but it'll make his throat scratchy and irritated. I decided to make a sauce that he could eat without this problem. It's base is blackberries and NM red chile. I use honey for a sweetener and I like to use apple cider or raspberry vinegar to give it a nice tang. I prefer that now over the tomato based ones.
 
There are a lot of bbq sauces that aren't ketchup based, mustard sauces, vinegar sauces, white sauces, pepper sauces, apricot or peach or berry or other fruit sauces.....I used to make a cranberry based bbq sauce.

~Martin
 
those are all new to me.I heard of mustard,vinegar even white sauce,but that one throws me off since it uses mayonnaise.I don't know about the fruit ones but I'll try only thing once.
 
I'll see what I can find for you.....
One of the things I did was search the net and see what was out there and then play with them. Most of what I found were bogus and needed help in my opinion. I had a function to host where the guest had to make a different BBQ sauce. we gave them copies of the recipes without amounts and asked them to recreate or improve what they had in front of them. Had some interesting results. I'll see if I have those and send your way.
I have a weird dislike for ketchup and I cringe when i think about using it in a sauce, so if you dont mind could you post some of your ideas in the thread? Thanks in advance.
 
Well aren't you a funny one, I don't see how you can call them fruit

and for schaydu have you ever had ketchup based BBQ sauce it tastes nothing like ketchup.I don't know for sher but maybe the big commercial brands use ketchup as their base.
 
Here are a few to start with. These are some that were collected from other Team members as well. Most work real well, some need a little personal adjustment here and there....

Berry Barbeque Sauce

1 c              Fresh Blackberries (Frozen can be used in place.)

3 ea            Garlic Cloves Peeled

2 tsp           Red Wine Vinegar

¼ c             Brown Sugar

2 Tbl          Corn Syrup

½ c             Tomato Sauce

Pinch         Red Pepper Flakes

¾ tsp          Paprika (Smoked gives a nice flavor if you have it.)

¾ tsp          Salt

¼ tsp          Ground Black Pepper

½ c             Apple Juice

1 ½ tsp       Unsalted Butter (optional)

Instructions:

Puree all ingredients, except the butter, in a food processor. Transfer to a sauce pan and simmer 20 minutes or until sauce is thickened slightly. If desired whisk in the whole butter for a richer flavor. Cool and store in a cover jar in refrigerator for up to one month.

Honey Citrus BBQ Sauce

¼ c             Orange Juice

¼ c             Soy Sauce

¼ c             Dijon Mustard

¼ c             Tomato Sauce

½ c             Honey

1 ea            Finely chopped Shallot

1Tbl           Finely chopped cilantro

1 Tbl          Finely chopped garlic

1 Tbl          Lemon Juice

1 Tbl          Lime Juice

Instruction:

Mix all ingredients in a large sauce pan and simmer 10 minutes stirring frequently. Serve warm or cold

Yield 1 ½ Cups

Maple Chipotle BBQ Sauce

1 ½ c           Ketchup

3 Tbl          Apple cider vinegar

¾ c             Maple syrup

1 Tbl          Worcestershire sauce

1 tsp           Salt

2 tsp           Dry mustard

2 tsp           Chipotle peppers with ancho sauce

2 tsp           Paprika

1 tsp           Onion powder

½ tsp          Garlic powder

¼ tsp          Celery seed

 Instructions:

Place all ingredients in a sauce pan and simmer 15 minutes

stirring frequently. Serve warm or cold. Can be stored covered in a refrigerator for up to 2 weeks.

Yield: 2 Cups

Brown Sugar Barbecue Sauce

1 ½ c          Tomato sauce

        2/3 c            Packed brown sugar

        3 Tbl           Cider vinegar

        1 ½ Tbl       Molasses

        1 Tbl           Worcestershire sauce

        1 tsp            Salt

        2 tsp            Dry Mustard

2 tsp           Chili powder

2 tsp           Paprika

1 tsp           Onion powder

2 tsp           Mesquite seasoning

½ tsp          Garlic powder

¼ tsp          Celery seeds

¼ tsp          Ground cloves

¼ tsp          Red pepper flakes

1 ea            6 oz Can Tomato Paste

½ c             Apple juice

Instructions:

Combine all ingredients together in a sauce pan over medium-high heat. Bring to a simmer. Lower temp to medium low and simmer 15 minutes, stirring frequently. Cool and store in a cover jar in refrigerator for up to one month.

Yield: 3 cups
Jack Barbaque Sauce
Portion Size Yield:1.25 CupsBatches Needed1
       
Ingredient Preparation AmountUMBatch Size
     
Jack Daniel's 0.25CUP0.3
Soy Sauce 0.25CUP0.3
Dijon Mustard 0.25CUP0.3
Ketchup 0.25CUP0.3
Brown SugarFirmly packed0.25CUP0.3
ScallionsFine Chopped3EA3.0
Fresh Rosemary LeavesFine Chopped1TBL1.0
GarlicFine Chopped2TBL2.0
     
Directions:
Mix all ingredients in a sauce pan and simmer for 10 min. Serve warm or cold.
 
 
what other veggies are considered fruit?

In general, if it has seeds, it is a fruit, though this is not 100% true. Seedless grapes, for example, are still a fruit, but I suspect that there have been many, many years of selective breeding to get the seedless varieties. Obviously, what makes a fruit a fruit is more complex than "it has seeds," but that's a good place to start. A lot of food things are not classified in a nice orderly scientific fashion due to simple tradition. Many people don't know that peanuts aren't actually nuts!
 
I have made sauce with heinz 57 steak sauce and the Honey heinz 57 is good also. They used to call it ketsup with a kick but  I ve never thought of it as ketsup but I have used it in making sauce and maybe add it to a commercial sauce of choice to start a creation, I have made the Jack Daniels dipping sauce that is featured at TGIF's and you can get the knock off recipie from TGIF's site.  I have added a little more brown sugar to make more of a bbq sauce for mopping on ribs and chicken the last 15 or so minutes of a smoke. I guess what I might suggest is if it calls for ketsup, try to substitute the heinz in its place.
 
They are all pretty good. They kind of serve different purposes........

Berry - pork and chicken
Honey citrus - pork, chicken and shrimp/lobster
Maple chipotle - pork, chicken, shellfish and beef
Brown sugar - all purpose generic
Jack - glaze for ribs, chicken and steaks/ brisket
 
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