Help Me Pick a Smoker

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rabbithutch

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After googling and reading countless posts - on countless topics - I'm so confused about smokers that I'm about to give up on the whole idea.  There seems to be too much to learn to choose a smoker well.  I'm retired and have a limited budget for purchase and for operation.  I don't expect to smoke a lot of items because there's just the two of us.  I would like to be able to do chickens, ribs, brisket, boston butt, etc. but don't expect to do wild game or sausages.  Also, I don't have a lot of patience any more and my attention span ain't what it used to be; so something fairly easy to use and as close to foolproof as possible would help.  Maybe that wish list is too wide and I'll have to pare the goals down before I can choose a smoker.  I'll never learn enough quickly enough to get there on my own; so I'm asking you good folks for help.

Here's some of the things I've considered.   I've ruled out a Big Green Egg or anything of the sort as being far too expensive.  The right unit for me will have to be affordable and easy to use.  Ideally, I'd be able to grill (high temp) and smoke (low temp) on the same device, but that is not a critical requirement.  I've seen, read and heard so much about Weber kettle style grills' versatility that I have not ruled that out, though I wonder if I could keep the heat low enough and constant enough long enough for this work for me.  I've considered the bullet smokers but at my age and with my arthritis problems (hip and knee replaced, so far), I don't think the stooping and bending is something I'd tolerate for long.  I suppose I could put it on a table, but then I'd be concerned about tipping it over.  Drought conditions here make fire accidents and sparks very unappealing.  I don't know enough about the electric smokers to make any reasonable choice, but they all seem to be too pricey for the use I'd make of them.  Can you get the flavor with electrics?

So, my thinking is leading me to a horizontal cylinder type smoker with a separate firebox that could be used for grilling.  I'm not talking about one big enough to do a whole pig, but one big enough to smoke for us and a few friends.  Charcoal is the fuel that I am most familiar with and I'd use chips of wood in a pan to add flavor.  I think I could handle the mods for baffle and spacers etc that I've read about.

If you've read this far, congratulations on your patience and persistence.  I would really appreciate feedback in two areas:  First, comment on my  thought process as stated above.  If I've started off in the wrong direction logically, now is the time to reset.  Second, I'd like to read about what type of unit you use and why you chose that type over others.

Thanks for listening.  I look forward to your responses.
 
Hi Rabbit

I'm no expert by any means but i was using a mes30 decent smoker easy to use pretty much fool proof

i personally found that for my taste i couldnt get it to deliver the smokey flavor that i liked. But in saying that there are many here that are electric gurus and i'm sure they turned out a much better product than i ever could. I am now using a WSM 22.5 in fact did my first smoke on it tonight with outstanding results imho. So for ease of use i really did like the electric i just like the product better from the weber imo. Good luck in which ever device you choose and there is a wealth of info i am also sure someone with more knowledge than i will come up on this thread and help point you in the right direction.
 
Rabbitt, I have a chargriller (Lowes) without the SFB (side fire box). I made a special charcoal basket that goes in one end of the smoker with the meat at the other end. This rig is VERY economical, Is cheap to buy and operate. I only use about 15 briquettes in the basket to hold that O-so familiar temp of 225`. Then I just throw a few wood CHUNKS in about every 30 minutes or so for the smoke flavor. Add a handful (6-8) of charcoal every hour or so.

This way I also you it as a grill too for my steaks and such. So I guess that makes it Bi-sexual... goes both ways...lol

You will definatly want to get the digital remote thermometers (dual) tho keep track of you temps. Todd has a good deal right now on the new and improved Maverick thermo. You will see his ad at the right ~~~~~~>.

here's a pic of my chargriller, with the stack mod and the charcoal basket






Hope this helps

PS. could you update your profile with your whereabouts... and thats way to much charcoal in the basket for 225`
 
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I'm thinking an an electric or some type of pellet smoker. Possibly a Big Green Egg/komado style cooker, the first two would probably fit more into your patience level. I think Sam's club has the MES 30 at a good price. Good luck and happy smoking.
 
mes 30... mes 40... wsms....bradley or a offset... take your pick....these units are what most people use....uds are awesome but youll have to build one

good luck and happy smokin

joe
 
If charcoal, smaller cooking volumes and a budget are in your game plan, the Char-broil American Gourmet for $89.00 @ wally-world is a good starter. Add a few mods and you'd have something wide enough for a slab or pork spare ribs, 2 slabs of BB, or a pair of yard birds. Not sure what it has for a charcoal grate in the main chamber, but a simple custom grate could be added for char-grilling...did that on my horizontal offset just because I didn't like the factory grate & ash pan set-up.

Char-broil's product page: http://www.charbroil.com/ProductInfo/10-17-1823/American-Gourmet-Offset-Smoker.aspx

Walmart's product page: http://www.walmart.com/ip/Char-Broil-American-Gourmet-Charcoal-Smoker/13056699

I've used a horozontal charcoal fired smoker (Brinkmann SnP 40"), but mostly prefer propane vertical for smoking due to less need for tending, with charcoal fired vertical being my second choice. But, as you stated, the verticals do require some stooping and bending, where a horizontal has everything pretty much within reach.

If less tending more to your liking, then propane may be your best choice, as electrics can be tempermental, especially in cold/wet weather.

Another inexpensive smoker (no grilling) I have is the small vertical propane GOSM 3405GW for $108.00 @ wally world: http://www.walmart.com/ip/Great-Outdoors-Smoky-Mountain-21-Gas-Smoker/12429508

It has 3 food grates, and the grates/chamber are large enough to handle up to 12-14lb birds, or halved slabs of ribs and medium cuts brisket flats or points. I've smoked large pork butts and picnics with room to spare, and it won't shy away from -20* ambient temps with a full load of meat in the smoke chamber. These don't use alot of propane, either...30-40 hours run-time on one 20# tank is pretty common, depending on weather conditions and smoke chamber temp. I have gone for over 50 hours several few times, nearly hitting the 60-hr mark. 

The small GOSM is a very good rig for the money...I bought mine 9 years ago for 99 bucks, and if I hadn't worn the chrome plating off of the cooking grates, I'd still be smoking with it. I'm seriously considering of buying another one this winter just to have another back-up rig for larger gatherings next summer. For a starter smoker, these are a great choice, IMHO.

I guess in a way I opened a question here that only you can answer: Do I want to buy charcoal, have a charcoal chimney on hand, wait for the coals to heat-up, and keep tending the fire, or, do I want to buy a propane tank, have fast heat-ups of the smoker with no muss & fuss, and get ocassional refills?

Welcome to your soon-to-be hobby...if it turns into an addiction, just go with the flow, 'cause, being retired, you'll have plenty of time to refine your methods and try lots of different foods and recipes, so ENJOY!

Eric
 
Howdy Rabbit,

     I have an MES 40 and an AMNPS www.amazenproducts.com   Many many of us on here have the AMNPS and it is awesome. Also you do NOT need to modify your smoker/grill to use it. My advice to you is to talk to the old hands here about products. The ones that use the product (not the ones who make them) will give you honest opinions of the product...NOT an advertisement meant to sell a product.

There are some excellent folks on here and most are more than willing to help you. To name a few....Bearcaver...Pops6927...Meateater...TJohnson...SmokinAl....to name but a few. This is an awesome place to get help.

Also a great place to research is http://www.smoking-meat.com/

Have fun and enjoy.

    JC1947

PS: I do agree with 1smokemeister about 1 thing:

"Good Luck in your purchase, take your time, and do your homework".
 
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Hello rabbit.

If you are in the NE Washington area come on by and join us for a Smoke.

That would be the best way to find your smoker. I love elect for the control and i use a pellet burner (Now) for the cold smoke.

Mine is home made. A silver ware divider made out of stainless steel.

I got the idea from Todd Amaz-n smoker.

I have never seen anything so simple work so good.

Good luck and just Remember the Kiss Method. Keep it simple Silly. Not Quite how my drill Sargent stated it but sounds better here.

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Howdy Rabbit,

     I have an MES 40 and an AMNPS www.amazenproducts.com   Many many of us on here have the AMNPS and it is awesome. Also you do NOT need to modify your smoker/grill to use it. My advice to you is to talk to the old hands here about products. The ones that use the product (not the ones who make them) will give you honest opinions of the product...NOT an advertisement meant to sell a product.

There are some excellent folks on here and most are more than willing to help you. To name a few....Bearcaver...Pops6927...Meateater...TJohnson...SmokinAl....to name but a few. This is an awesome place to get help.

Also a great place to research is http://www.smoking-meat.com/

Have fun and enjoy.

    JC1947

PS: I do agree with 1smokemeister about 1 thing:

"Good Luck in your purchase, take your time, and do your homework".
Times 2 on everything JC said, and there are a few hundred others on this forum who can vouch for the Amazing Smoker Products.

We aren't here as advertisers.

Bear
 
I'm trying to spend no more than $200 on the smoker or grill or whatever.  I have a charcoal chimney and a host of tending gear.  I expect to have to spend a few bucks on a damper and other mods if I get a horizontal unit.  I've got my eye on a Hondo by New Braunfels/Char Grill but I'm holding off buying waiting for everyone's advice.  If anyone has anything bad or good to say about the Hondo, I'd be much obliged to hear it.

The abbreviations here are causing me some problems.  Google is helping, but what is a "uds"?

Thanks to everyone who has responded so far.  You are a generous and helpful bunch of folks.
 
I'm trying to spend no more than $200 on the smoker or grill or whatever.  I have a charcoal chimney and a host of tending gear.  I expect to have to spend a few bucks on a damper and other mods if I get a horizontal unit.  I've got my eye on a Hondo by New Braunfels/Char Grill but I'm holding off buying waiting for everyone's advice.  If anyone has anything bad or good to say about the Hondo, I'd be much obliged to hear it.

The abbreviations here are causing me some problems.  Google is helping, but what is a "uds"?

Thanks to everyone who has responded so far.  You are a generous and helpful bunch of folks.
Rabbit,

   Sam's Club has the MES 40 for $299

JC1947
 
If you want to stick with the charcoal as a fuel source, don't want to build one, and want it to be fairly simple to use with minimal tending then I would suggest a 18.5" Weber Smokey Mountain (WSM). You can usually pick them up on-line for $260-$299 with free shipping, set up is all of 10-15 min. For low and slow smoking use the water bowl and set the dampers correclty and you can hold a low steady temp. for 18-20+ hrs. with very little input from you. You can also take the water bowl out and use it for high heat grilling as well. The footprint is nice and small, but with two racks you can put a lot of food on there if you need/want to.

I have the 22.5" WSM and call it smoking-for-dummies easy to use... lol. I love using mine and wish I had started with a WSM instead of wasting $199 on a cheap horizontal offset at Lowe's, spent 4 hrs. modifing and assembling, that I later sold for $80.
 
I have a WSM 18.5,medium BGE and a MES 30...

If I could only have one it would be hands down the WSM.

There..I picked one for you!!

  Have a  great day!!

  Craig
 
I got a "cheap horizontal" from home depot. A Brinkmann Trailmaster Limited Edition, did a couple of easy mods, and love it. I held my temp for 5.5 hours when it was 55 degrees out.

I wanted something with a lot of grill space and the ability to put large pieces of meat on there. It's been a hit and people love the look of it.

I previously had a small water smoker and liked it as well but it became way to much work. Good luck with whatever you choose.

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