Thx for the kind words and the info on piggys. They may be a bit more $ but if raised & processed locally how sweet is that? Am very familar with Van Fleet so might look into that.There is another butcher/processor (name escapes me) fairly close to me that I've bought whole pigs from b4 for pig roasts...possibly another source without the middle man (van fleet). Best of luck with the mods....just finished up an Italian Chicken sausage run. Will poach them off tomorrow and maybe get a thread started