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They built 2 hospitals in 4 months? Were they M.A.S.H ( mobile army hospitals)?
In addition, 77% of the cases in the US are in one senior living center, located in Washington state. That’s pretty well locked down. How exactly is the US NOT locked down?

I would say if new cases are popping up all over different parts of the state of PA (like other states) - first Eastern PA, next Western PA, and now Central PA, it's not locked down. That's just common sense.

And you're arguing with somebody in the medical field who happens to be a doctor. That's just funny.
 
Respectfully, let’s talk numbers. First, COVID-19 has infected 155,227 people in total globally. It has killed 5,802 people out of a population of roughly 5,700,000,000. All of this since December of 2019, but you and I both know that the Chinese government was aware of this well before December 2019, and that people were freely traveling between the US and China all along. So in the US today, 2572 cases confirmed, and 41 deaths.

Now let’s look at the N1H1 (swine flu) of 2009-2010. In the US, 1000 citizens died, including 100 children before the President declared a national emergency. 1000 dead,,,,,,, as the H1N1 played out, 60 million Americans were infected, 300,000 were hospitalized, and anywhere between 12k and 18 thousand citizens died as a result. This is in
side the United States, not global numbers. We hoarded no toilet paper, we canceled no sporting events, we closed no schools, it was considered normal at the time. Numbers far more reaching than what we see globally today in the globe with COVID-19. Stop the panic! This is life on planet earth.
 
They built 2 hospitals in 4 months? Were they M.A.S.H ( mobile army hospitals)?
In addition, 77% of the cases in the US are in one senior living center, located in Washington state. That’s pretty well locked down. How exactly is the US NOT locked down?

There are 2,726 confirmed cases in the US. Only about 20.9% of them are in the state of Washington.

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I’m also so tired of the H1N1 swine flu comparisons. Just because we had a previous pandemic doesn’t mean we shouldn’t prepare for a novel pandemic.

H1N1 arguments are based on TOTAL H1N1 cases and deaths. We don’t know what that looks like for this coronavirus yet. We won’t for a while.

But let’s just say H1N1 was worse. Shit why didn’t we take that as seriously here then? Do we really need to play the “yea but look over here” game right now?
 
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I do not trust ANY numbers coming from the Chinese government. Their priorities are not for the truth, it's social stability and saving face. The numbers are far higher than being reported. The little bit of reality that has leaked out from chinese citizens confirms this assessment.
There are 2,726 confirmed cases in the US. Only about 20.9% of them are in the state of Washington.

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So what? 77% of the deaths occurred there In one living center. Without that number you got nothing to talk about. You people are incredible.
 
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Just reading that nearly made me vomit. :emoji_anguished:

You are welcome...... it’s and image that will haunt you for life now.....sorry


civilsmoker......you are my hero.

I sure try......

Can't squeal, but I can do the old man dance.



That's just wrong right there, and if I ever see a car from AR or ND with a dude holding pliers. I will get me one of them fancy shooting irons right quick like.

Chris

Chris, just how do you think they do it.....not in an O room.....a knife, crimpers, and the powder sprinkle stuff.......everyone had to do the crimp pinch at least once to pass Animal Science Class.........by they way I didn’t have to take biology in high school, so no frog work in the lab.....but them pigs ran like h.....from me.....lol

man o man tears and vomit were a common occurrence.
 
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We skinned and dissected big ole alley cats in Anatomy and physiology.

Chris
 
Problem is your COVID-19 is a total hyped up media driven nothing burger. Numbers dragged from the sky in terms of potential. We shut down nothing during H1N1, and we all know those numbers. By they way, we never ran out of hospital beds either back then.

Thank Christ you’re not in any position to drive policy on this.

Philadelphia also didnt shut down their summer parade in the 1918 flu pandemic. Within a few weeks over 2500 were dead.
 
Us in North America are somewhat lucky, we have had more time to prepare than China and Europe. It will be really interesting to see all the data after this pandemic has passed. Did the extra time North America have to prepare make a difference in the statistics?

Im not sure we ever had any extra time. The travel between China and the US is constant. When ever this virus started over there, it was also here in the states. The flights are around the clock 24-7. Where did we have a head start?
 
Thank Christ you’re not in any position to drive policy on this.

Philadelphia also didnt shut down their summer parade in the 1918 flu pandemic. Within a few weeks over 2500 were dead.

Really JCAP?
You are a PHD, I have given you numbers to work with. You can’t stand mention of H1N1 in comparison to corona 19, but now you wish to invoke the Spanish flu Of 1918? The corona virus, in general, is not even capable of the death and destruction that you purport it to possess.

This virus is known as, (SARS-CoV-2) in case you were wondering, it’s liken to an upper respiratory common cold. The numbers bear this out. Coronavirus has been identified since the 1960’s and has 7 different strains. Most of which produce what we know as the common cold.

people like you are making this into something straight out of a sci-fi movie! More people in the US die from accidental death than have tested positive for corona-19 world wide.
 
Please don’t get into a semantics debate with me. I teach virology courses and will run circles around you in that space.

It’s called SARS-CoV-2 because it’s closely related to SARS-CoV, the virus that causes another tremendous outbreak in 2002-2003. The positive thing about that outbreak was that folks weren’t contagious until they were symptomatic (~6 days after symptoms started). SARS-CoV-2 is more easily passed between people.

I’m well aware that there are coronaviruses that cause common colds. This is not one of them. Common colds don’t kill people like this.
 
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