Electrical help for my ground water well. Please!!!

[forktender]

Yes kroil is the best spray you can buy for rusted bolts. The only other thing you do is mix acetone and ATF as a great break free as well. But I doubt in commiefornia you could get acetone?

Actually it is one of the things we can still get here.
Don't get me started on what we can no longer get here in HELL!!!

If Newsome gets into office one way or another back door way, LMFAO @ "backdoor" and Kali, the whole country if going to be like good'ol Kali.
God forbid.....Rant over!!!

 

[forktender]

But I have more expertise with pressure tanks...

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This one is bad! It didn't like sitting in the corner where it's supposed to be.

Ryan

Ryan, are you a plumber as well? If so, sorry man!!!

 

[forktender]

Steve H
There were 4 wires 3 black 1 white.

That blox and switch will be replaced one way or another, after seeing the inside of it.

 

[Steve H]

It's 220 volt switch. You're going to need a double pole/double throw switch.

https://www.amazon.com/Leviton-1222-2I-Toggle-Double-Pole-Grounding/dp/B002KMNT7M/ref=sr_1_3?adgrpid=1335908286557669&hvadid=83494535346827&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=125133&hvnetw=o&hvqmt=e&hvtargid=kwd-83495287224862%3Aloc-32&hydadcr=27057_14522909&keywords=double+pole+switch+220v&qid=1699905466&sr=8-3

 

[Steve H]

Wire it the same as the old one. That one is pretty neat. It has a removable heater on it. Heater=thermo overload
You're going to need to replace the box with a weather tite one. And a flip switch.

https://www.amazon.com/Hubbell-Bell-PTC100GY-Weatherproof-Vertical-Nonmetallic/dp/B002MYF1GA/ref=pd_bxgy_sccl_1/146-1695733-5885317?pd_rd_w=ppDkI&content-id=amzn1.sym.7746dde5-5539-43d2-b75f-28935d70f100&pf_rd_p=7746dde5-5539-43d2-b75f-28935d70f100&pf_rd_r=HVQMXK4JE2BNY8MT26HS&pd_rd_wg=KnZkj&pd_rd_r=8a68e1b7-c80f-4f50-8c2c-dac6321b5ce5&pd_rd_i=B002MYF1GA&th=1

https://www.amazon.com/Hubbell-Bell-PSB37550GY-Weatherproof-2-Inch-Outlets/dp/B0044FQX0I/ref=pd_bxgy_sccl_2/146-1695733-5885317?pd_rd_w=ppDkI&content-id=amzn1.sym.7746dde5-5539-43d2-b75f-28935d70f100&pf_rd_p=7746dde5-5539-43d2-b75f-28935d70f100&pf_rd_r=HVQMXK4JE2BNY8MT26HS&pd_rd_wg=KnZkj&pd_rd_r=8a68e1b7-c80f-4f50-8c2c-dac6321b5ce5&pd_rd_i=B0044FQX0I&th=1

 

[forktender]

Wire it the same as the old one. That one is pretty neat. It has a removable heater on it. Heater=thermo overload
You're going to need to replace the box with a weather tite one. And a flip switch.

https://www.amazon.com/Hubbell-Bell-PTC100GY-Weatherproof-Vertical-Nonmetallic/dp/B002MYF1GA/ref=pd_bxgy_sccl_1/146-1695733-5885317?pd_rd_w=ppDkI&content-id=amzn1.sym.7746dde5-5539-43d2-b75f-28935d70f100&pf_rd_p=7746dde5-5539-43d2-b75f-28935d70f100&pf_rd_r=HVQMXK4JE2BNY8MT26HS&pd_rd_wg=KnZkj&pd_rd_r=8a68e1b7-c80f-4f50-8c2c-dac6321b5ce5&pd_rd_i=B002MYF1GA&th=1

https://www.amazon.com/Hubbell-Bell-PSB37550GY-Weatherproof-2-Inch-Outlets/dp/B0044FQX0I/ref=pd_bxgy_sccl_2/146-1695733-5885317?pd_rd_w=ppDkI&content-id=amzn1.sym.7746dde5-5539-43d2-b75f-28935d70f100&pf_rd_p=7746dde5-5539-43d2-b75f-28935d70f100&pf_rd_r=HVQMXK4JE2BNY8MT26HS&pd_rd_wg=KnZkj&pd_rd_r=8a68e1b7-c80f-4f50-8c2c-dac6321b5ce5&pd_rd_i=B0044FQX0I&th=1

Steve H , Thank you very much.
As far as switches go could you please include a link to one that would work best on Amazon.

I'm at a total loss here.LOL.
Dan

 

[zwiller]

Not licensed but done lots of wiring over the years but never saw a switch cover like that. If that were me I'd throw the switch on, power it back up, and carefully confirm with the meter the old switch is in fact the issue.

 

[Steve H]

Steve H , Thank you very much.
As far as switches go could you please include a link to one that would work best on Amazon.

I'm at a total loss here.LOL.
Dan

Already did. Look at post #24

 

[Steve H]

Not licensed but done lots of wiring over the years but never saw a switch cover like that. If that were me I'd throw the switch on, power it back up, and carefully confirm with the meter the old switch is in fact the issue.

Dan did. Look at post #12

 

[forktender]

Already did. Look at post #24

I was in Ace hardware, and I didn't have my reading glasses with me.
Ace had crap boxes and switches, I ordered the parts off the part list that you put together for me. Thanks a bunch Steve, I really appreciate the help from a professional skilled tradesman.
Thank God, the well is only used for irrigation water and hose bibs, or else I'd be putting it back together with sub par Ace hardware parts. It will also let the Kroil do its job for a few days, so the old box comes off without breaking anything, you know how plumbers are, if It's too tight get a longer cheater bar and a hammer out. LOL!!!
Thank again, I know I keep saying that, but I truly appreciate your help.
You saved me a pretty good chunk of change, by not having to call someone in to repair if for me.

We are broke, my wife spent everything on new furnishings, linens and drapes. LOL!!!
Dan.

 

[JckDanls 07]

I believe that to be the well pump motor starter in the blue box behind the switch... Keep that in mind if it was not the switch... I've had to replce a few of them through the years.... The switch is really not needed if the breaker is close by...

 

[forktender]

Not licensed but done lots of wiring over the years but never saw a switch cover like that. If that were me I'd throw the switch on, power it back up, and carefully confirm with the meter the old switch is in fact the issue.

The switch is dead, power is not passing through it, and the switch paddle itself just flops back and forth with zero resistance. It has to be over 50 yrs old.

I replaced the pressure switch, because they are cheap. I was hoping that would take care of the problem, but it didn't. It was a good thing I replaced it, though, because the 1/4'' galvi riser pipe had so much plaque in it that you couldn't see through it or blow through it. LOL...I hate galvi water pipes with a passion, I need to repipe this whole house and replace the main from the H2o meter, I'm sure it's full of plaque as well, this house was built in the late 1940s, my inlaws had it built after they were married.
The joys of owning an old home....but we couldn't bare to see it go on the market, so we bought my best friend and brother inlaw out of his half with money we already had saved. Mortgage free is a whole new way of life for us, we are digging it big time!!!

Thanks for the ideas.
Dan the plumber, obviously not an electrician. LOL!!!

 

[forktender]

I believe that to be the well pump motor starter in the blue box behind the switch... Keep that in mind if it was not the switch... I've had to replce a few of them through the years.... The switch is really not needed if the breaker is close by...

I think it's okay, if I worked the switch up and down a few times the pump would cycle for a few minutes then shut off, fingers crossed!!!

The breaker is in the front yard, so a switch is nice to have right at the pump.
But if the rusted box won't spin off, I may just hard wire it and put a new cover place and gasket on it.

Thanks for the idea.
Dan

 

[Steve H]

I believe that to be the well pump motor starter in the blue box behind the switch... Keep that in mind if it was not the switch... I've had to replce a few of them through the years.... The switch is really not needed if the breaker is close by...

That can be a code violation. Check local codes first.

 

[Steve H]

I think it's okay, if I worked the switch up and down a few times the pump would cycle for a few minutes then shut off, fingers crossed!!!

The breaker is in the front yard, so a switch is nice to have right at the pump.
But if the rusted box won't spin off, I may just hard wire it and put a new cover place and gasket on it.

Thanks for the idea.
Dan

That is new info that I didn't know. It could be the thermo limits built into the motor. Hopefully not the case.

 

[zwiller]

Dan did. Look at post #12

Missed that somehow!

Not a NEC fanatic but see some missing conduit on that box too 2nd pic of post 1.

 

[pineywoods]

Dan does the gray box that says Franklin Electric have wires running to it?
I would think it would have a controller box.

 

[forktender]

Dan does the gray box that says Franklin Electric have wires running to it?
I would think it would have a controller box.

It does the wires come off the pressure switch.

 

[forktender]

Missed that somehow!

Not a NEC fanatic but see some missing conduit on that box too 2nd pic of post 1.

I took the cover plate off the access to see how the wires looked. The wire looks fine, I just hope the pump itself isn't clogged up and tripping the power off.
Look at the plaque in the 1/4" pressure switch riser pipe, you can't see through it at all, and can hardly blow through it.
I hope this doesn't turn into a can of worms, that would be just my luck, at least it's winter and we don't need the water very bad right now.

 

[mike243]

Stopped up pressure switches are common, glad I don't have to work on them any more , I have a well that's 218' deep and put 3 pumps in it over the years, a month after the last swap I put city water in,