Dried Beef Step by Step (Great Stuff)

[jimmy1957]

Thanks, Only asking because I was going to do it today but as you can tell were having a really cold day in PA.

 

[Winterrider]

Trimmed up 3 small eyes yesterday, thickest just about 3" so will be curing for about 10-12 days (weather pending) before throwing some smoke at them.

 

[Bearcarver]

Thanks, Only asking because I was going to do it today but as you can tell were having a really cold day in PA.

Yup---Not too warm around here lately!!

Bear

 

[nanuk]

We hit -39.6 and -39.8 not that long ago.... F or C, that is cold!

 

[Winterrider]

-9° this AM -28° with wind chill ,can't smoke so tried ice fishing. Could have just as well thrown a line in the toilet. Oh well,that's why they call it fishing and not catching.

 

[Bearcarver]

-9° this AM -28° with wind chill ,can't smoke so tried ice fishing. Could have just as well thrown a line in the toilet. Oh well,that's why they call it fishing and not catching.

Those fish just don't want to be pulled out of that nice warm 32° water into that -28° Wind Chill !!!

Bear

 

[Winterrider]

Those fish just don't want to be pulled out of that nice warm 32° water into that -28° Wind Chill !!!

Bear

Don't blame them one bit...

 

[bill ace 350]

We hit -39.6 and -39.8 not that long ago.... F or C, that is cold!

yup.

-40 c, -40 f.....

Cold

 

[jimmy1957]

Those temps are too cold for me, I did smoke the dry beef on 1-22-2019, My wife said it was really good and better then store bought so that is a big plus for my first time, I was a little worried since there was just a small round circle in the middle with a tint of light gray, Was going to post a picture from the camera but the pictures were too big, so I have to figure out how to shrink them, I sure hope they are alright to eat that way.

 

[Bearcarver]

Those temps are too cold for me, I did smoke the dry beef on 1-22-2019, My wife said it was really good and better then store bought so that is a big plus for my first time, I was a little worried since there was just a small round circle in the middle with a tint of light gray, Was going to post a picture from the camera but the pictures were too big, so I have to figure out how to shrink them, I sure hope they are alright to eat that way.

If it was that small & that light, there shouldn't be a problem.
I would have advised you to smoke it hotter & faster to get it above 140° within 4 hours (Danger Zone).
Then you could hold it there & keep smoking for more smoke flavor, before finishing it at about 160° IT.

Bear

 

[jimmy1957]

Thanks Bear, I did smoke it for about 6 hours and it was done, But the pieces weren't that big and I probably had a temp of about 200 degrees in the smoker and the meat was about 145 internal temp, I couldn't get the temp much lower with my MB gas smoker, So are you saying the meat should be cooked to internal temp of 140 degrees within 4 hours?

 

[RRR]

Dried Beef Step by Step (Great Stuff)

I decided to write this one up the best I can, because this stuff is Awesome, and I'd like as many of you as possible to get to taste this stuff!!!
It's really very easy to make:



When I was carrying a lunch box, I used to always have two Sammies in there.
If Mrs Bear put two Ham & Cheese in there, after 3 days, I'd get tired of it.
If it was Roast Beef, same thing after 3 or 4 days.
Lebanon & Cheese, maybe only two days & I was tired of it.
But Dried Beef was different, I could eat that for months, but it was always too expensive!!!

Dried Beef and American Cheese with Miracle Whip (or Mayo) on white bread has always been my favorite "lunch-box" sammy. That's what I carried on Construction jobs, Beth Steel jobs, Cabinetmaking jobs, and Deck jobs (also when fishing or hunting).
Just about every deer I ever shot had at least one hind quarter turned into "Dried Venison" by one of our local butcher shops in SE Pennsylvania.

Now I can make my own. I made my first batch 4 years ago, and they just keep getting better and better!

If I don't have any Venison, I just get some lean beef. Eye Round works the best for me---Nice shape, and very little trimming needed.

I'll try to make this as easy as I can, so anybody can do what I just learned how to do 4 years ago.

Day #1 (Prepping & starting the cure):
First I found some Beef Eye Round.
I got 4 roasts, equalling a total of 15 pounds, and after trimming all the fat off, I still had exactly 14 pounds of nice lean red Beef.

Then I weighed each piece, and put them each on their own plate, and marked the plates they were on with those weights.
Then I calculated the proper amount of Tender Quick for each piece, and put that on separate smaller plates.
I use the suggested amount, which is 1/2 ounce of TQ for every pound of meat.
Rub the proper amount of TQ on each piece, along with about 1 tsp of Brown Sugar per pound.
Then put each piece in a Zip-lock bag, along with any cure that fell off before it went into the bag.
That cure was measured for each piece, so it must stay with the piece it was designated for.

Then the bags go into the fridge at temperatures between 35˚ and 40˚ (I keep mine at 37˚-38˚).
To calculate how long to cure in fridge, I use the following method:
One day for every 1/2" of thickness of the thickest piece.
Then add 2 days for the absolute minimum number of days.
I then add 2 or 3 days to that for more safety, and to pick a day I like to smoke.
You can add another couple days if you can't smoke on one of those days.

My largest piece was 2 3/4" thick, so that gives me 6 days, plus 2 days for an absolute minimum of 8 days. Then I normally add 2 more days for more safety, but this time I added 4 more days (12 total days), so I could smoke it on a day I had nothing else to do.
Note: I Never cure for less than 8 days.

Day #13 (Remove from cure, and Prep for Smoking):
So after 12 days curing, I rinsed all 4 pieces off.
I usually soak my cured meats for a half hour or an hour, but since I never get any salt flavor, I decided not to this time.
I cut the biggest piece in half, and took a slice from the middle for my testing.
The center was dark reddish pink, so it was obvious that the cure got all the way in, and there was only a very slight salt flavor---Perfect!

I dried the pieces off, and managed to get them all laid out on one smoker shelf, after sprinkling some Black Pepper, Garlic Powder, and Onion Powder on both sides.
Then back into my meat fridge to await the next day's smoking.

Day #14 (Smoking Time):
6:00AM------------Preheat Smoker to 140˚.
6:30AM------------Put meat on 2nd position in MES. Sterilize Probes, and insert. Fill AMNS with Hickory Dust & light one end.
7:00AM------------Put AMNS on bars to left of Chip Drawer.
8:00AM------------Meat at 77˚ IT.
9:00AM------------Meat at 98˚ IT.
10:00AM----------Meat 108˚.
11:00AM----------Meat 114˚.
12:00Noon-------Meat 116˚. Bump Heat up to 160˚.
1:00PM-----------Meat 120˚.
2:00PM-----------Meat 124˚. Only 2" of Dust left to burn. I added about 1 1/4 rows of Hickory pellets next to burning Dust to ignite it.
2:00PM-----------Also Bump Heat up to 180˚.
3:00PM-----------Meat 132˚.
4:00PM-----------Meat 135˚.
5:00PM-----------Meat 137˚. Bump Heat to 200˚.
6:00PM-----------Meat 142˚.
7:00PM-----------Meat 147˚.
8:00PM-----------Meat 152˚.
9:00PM-----------Meat 157˚. AMNS ran out of fuel.
10:00PM---------Meat Temps from 158˚ to 162˚. Pulled all out of smoker.

Rinsed all pieces, patted dry, and cooled down to 100˚.
Then put in a bowl, and put in meat fridge for a couple days.

Day #16 (Slicing & Freezing):
Two days later, I moved the pieces to the freezer for 4 hours, and then sliced it all up.
I sliced the ends a little thicker for my Son.
He says the end slices are better tasting than any Jerky he ever had.
Then I sliced the rest as thin as I could, while still keeping it in full slices.

I ended up with 10 pounds, 2 ounces of the Best Dried Beef I ever tasted.

I put about 1/3 pound in each vacuum pack, and froze all but what we would eat in a few days.

I tried not to miss anything, but I'll try to answer any questions anyone has.




Bear




Trimming fat from 15 pounds of Eye Round Roast:
View attachment 339926


14 pounds left after trimming:
View attachment 339927


All weighed, and proper amounts of TQ in small plates to match each piece:
View attachment 339928


All ready for 12 days of curing:
View attachment 339929


Juice left in all 4 bags, after curing, was 7 ounces:
View attachment 339930


Sliced for Salt-fry Test. Color shows cure reached to center:
View attachment 339931


Salt-fry Test in progress:
View attachment 339932


Test showed "Just Right":
View attachment 339933


Ready for overnight in fridge before smoking day:
View attachment 339934


All pieces cut in half, and ready for slicing real thin:
View attachment 339935


Closeup to show color:
View attachment 339936


Victims all lined up:
View attachment 339937


All sliced up:
9 pounds, 7 ounces of slices, and 11 ounces of ends.
Total-----10 pounds, 2 ounces from 14 pounds of raw trimmed Eye Rounds:
View attachment 339938


Closeup of slices:
View attachment 339939


All ready for eating & freezing:
View attachment 339940

I am going to

Dried Beef Step by Step (Great Stuff)

I decided to write this one up the best I can, because this stuff is Awesome, and I'd like as many of you as possible to get to taste this stuff!!!
It's really very easy to make:



When I was carrying a lunch box, I used to always have two Sammies in there.
If Mrs Bear put two Ham & Cheese in there, after 3 days, I'd get tired of it.
If it was Roast Beef, same thing after 3 or 4 days.
Lebanon & Cheese, maybe only two days & I was tired of it.
But Dried Beef was different, I could eat that for months, but it was always too expensive!!!

Dried Beef and American Cheese with Miracle Whip (or Mayo) on white bread has always been my favorite "lunch-box" sammy. That's what I carried on Construction jobs, Beth Steel jobs, Cabinetmaking jobs, and Deck jobs (also when fishing or hunting).
Just about every deer I ever shot had at least one hind quarter turned into "Dried Venison" by one of our local butcher shops in SE Pennsylvania.

Now I can make my own. I made my first batch 4 years ago, and they just keep getting better and better!

If I don't have any Venison, I just get some lean beef. Eye Round works the best for me---Nice shape, and very little trimming needed.

I'll try to make this as easy as I can, so anybody can do what I just learned how to do 4 years ago.

Day #1 (Prepping & starting the cure):
First I found some Beef Eye Round.
I got 4 roasts, equalling a total of 15 pounds, and after trimming all the fat off, I still had exactly 14 pounds of nice lean red Beef.

Then I weighed each piece, and put them each on their own plate, and marked the plates they were on with those weights.
Then I calculated the proper amount of Tender Quick for each piece, and put that on separate smaller plates.
I use the suggested amount, which is 1/2 ounce of TQ for every pound of meat.
Rub the proper amount of TQ on each piece, along with about 1 tsp of Brown Sugar per pound.
Then put each piece in a Zip-lock bag, along with any cure that fell off before it went into the bag.
That cure was measured for each piece, so it must stay with the piece it was designated for.

Then the bags go into the fridge at temperatures between 35˚ and 40˚ (I keep mine at 37˚-38˚).
To calculate how long to cure in fridge, I use the following method:
One day for every 1/2" of thickness of the thickest piece.
Then add 2 days for the absolute minimum number of days.
I then add 2 or 3 days to that for more safety, and to pick a day I like to smoke.
You can add another couple days if you can't smoke on one of those days.

My largest piece was 2 3/4" thick, so that gives me 6 days, plus 2 days for an absolute minimum of 8 days. Then I normally add 2 more days for more safety, but this time I added 4 more days (12 total days), so I could smoke it on a day I had nothing else to do.
Note: I Never cure for less than 8 days.

Day #13 (Remove from cure, and Prep for Smoking):
So after 12 days curing, I rinsed all 4 pieces off.
I usually soak my cured meats for a half hour or an hour, but since I never get any salt flavor, I decided not to this time.
I cut the biggest piece in half, and took a slice from the middle for my testing.
The center was dark reddish pink, so it was obvious that the cure got all the way in, and there was only a very slight salt flavor---Perfect!

I dried the pieces off, and managed to get them all laid out on one smoker shelf, after sprinkling some Black Pepper, Garlic Powder, and Onion Powder on both sides.
Then back into my meat fridge to await the next day's smoking.

Day #14 (Smoking Time):
6:00AM------------Preheat Smoker to 140˚.
6:30AM------------Put meat on 2nd position in MES. Sterilize Probes, and insert. Fill AMNS with Hickory Dust & light one end.
7:00AM------------Put AMNS on bars to left of Chip Drawer.
8:00AM------------Meat at 77˚ IT.
9:00AM------------Meat at 98˚ IT.
10:00AM----------Meat 108˚.
11:00AM----------Meat 114˚.
12:00Noon-------Meat 116˚. Bump Heat up to 160˚.
1:00PM-----------Meat 120˚.
2:00PM-----------Meat 124˚. Only 2" of Dust left to burn. I added about 1 1/4 rows of Hickory pellets next to burning Dust to ignite it.
2:00PM-----------Also Bump Heat up to 180˚.
3:00PM-----------Meat 132˚.
4:00PM-----------Meat 135˚.
5:00PM-----------Meat 137˚. Bump Heat to 200˚.
6:00PM-----------Meat 142˚.
7:00PM-----------Meat 147˚.
8:00PM-----------Meat 152˚.
9:00PM-----------Meat 157˚. AMNS ran out of fuel.
10:00PM---------Meat Temps from 158˚ to 162˚. Pulled all out of smoker.

Rinsed all pieces, patted dry, and cooled down to 100˚.
Then put in a bowl, and put in meat fridge for a couple days.

Day #16 (Slicing & Freezing):
Two days later, I moved the pieces to the freezer for 4 hours, and then sliced it all up.
I sliced the ends a little thicker for my Son.
He says the end slices are better tasting than any Jerky he ever had.
Then I sliced the rest as thin as I could, while still keeping it in full slices.

I ended up with 10 pounds, 2 ounces of the Best Dried Beef I ever tasted.

I put about 1/3 pound in each vacuum pack, and froze all but what we would eat in a few days.

I tried not to miss anything, but I'll try to answer any questions anyone has.




Bear




Trimming fat from 15 pounds of Eye Round Roast:
View attachment 339926


14 pounds left after trimming:
View attachment 339927


All weighed, and proper amounts of TQ in small plates to match each piece:
View attachment 339928


All ready for 12 days of curing:
View attachment 339929


Juice left in all 4 bags, after curing, was 7 ounces:
View attachment 339930


Sliced for Salt-fry Test. Color shows cure reached to center:
View attachment 339931


Salt-fry Test in progress:
View attachment 339932


Test showed "Just Right":
View attachment 339933


Ready for overnight in fridge before smoking day:
View attachment 339934


All pieces cut in half, and ready for slicing real thin:
View attachment 339935


Closeup to show color:
View attachment 339936


Victims all lined up:
View attachment 339937


All sliced up:
9 pounds, 7 ounces of slices, and 11 ounces of ends.
Total-----10 pounds, 2 ounces from 14 pounds of raw trimmed Eye Rounds:
View attachment 339938


Closeup of slices:
View attachment 339939


All ready for eating & freezing:
View attachment 339940

I am going to try this, but I can’t find Tender Quick in the Philippines. I only have cure #1 any suggestions?

 

[Bearcarver]

I am going to

I am going to try this, but I can’t find Tender Quick in the Philippines. I only have cure #1 any suggestions?

Here's how Pops does it with Cure #1:
https://www.smokingmeatforums.com/threads/s-o-s-smoked-dried-beef.74622/

Bear

 

[Bearcarver]

Thanks Bear, I did smoke it for about 6 hours and it was done, But the pieces weren't that big and I probably had a temp of about 200 degrees in the smoker and the meat was about 145 internal temp, I couldn't get the temp much lower with my MB gas smoker, So are you saying the meat should be cooked to internal temp of 140 degrees within 4 hours?

That's the way I treat Meat that hasn't been cured first, so if the cure didn't get to center, it's not completely cured.
Since most of it has been cured (except the center), I would still treat the whole thing as not cured, just to be totally safe, because I wouldn't know where the dividing line would be.

Bear

 

[RRR]

Dried Beef Step by Step (Great Stuff)

I decided to write this one up the best I can, because this stuff is Awesome, and I'd like as many of you as possible to get to taste this stuff!!!
It's really very easy to make:



When I was carrying a lunch box, I used to always have two Sammies in there.
If Mrs Bear put two Ham & Cheese in there, after 3 days, I'd get tired of it.
If it was Roast Beef, same thing after 3 or 4 days.
Lebanon & Cheese, maybe only two days & I was tired of it.
But Dried Beef was different, I could eat that for months, but it was always too expensive!!!

Dried Beef and American Cheese with Miracle Whip (or Mayo) on white bread has always been my favorite "lunch-box" sammy. That's what I carried on Construction jobs, Beth Steel jobs, Cabinetmaking jobs, and Deck jobs (also when fishing or hunting).
Just about every deer I ever shot had at least one hind quarter turned into "Dried Venison" by one of our local butcher shops in SE Pennsylvania.

Now I can make my own. I made my first batch 4 years ago, and they just keep getting better and better!

If I don't have any Venison, I just get some lean beef. Eye Round works the best for me---Nice shape, and very little trimming needed.

I'll try to make this as easy as I can, so anybody can do what I just learned how to do 4 years ago.

Day #1 (Prepping & starting the cure):
First I found some Beef Eye Round.
I got 4 roasts, equalling a total of 15 pounds, and after trimming all the fat off, I still had exactly 14 pounds of nice lean red Beef.

Then I weighed each piece, and put them each on their own plate, and marked the plates they were on with those weights.
Then I calculated the proper amount of Tender Quick for each piece, and put that on separate smaller plates.
I use the suggested amount, which is 1/2 ounce of TQ for every pound of meat.
Rub the proper amount of TQ on each piece, along with about 1 tsp of Brown Sugar per pound.
Then put each piece in a Zip-lock bag, along with any cure that fell off before it went into the bag.
That cure was measured for each piece, so it must stay with the piece it was designated for.

Then the bags go into the fridge at temperatures between 35˚ and 40˚ (I keep mine at 37˚-38˚).
To calculate how long to cure in fridge, I use the following method:
One day for every 1/2" of thickness of the thickest piece.
Then add 2 days for the absolute minimum number of days.
I then add 2 or 3 days to that for more safety, and to pick a day I like to smoke.
You can add another couple days if you can't smoke on one of those days.

My largest piece was 2 3/4" thick, so that gives me 6 days, plus 2 days for an absolute minimum of 8 days. Then I normally add 2 more days for more safety, but this time I added 4 more days (12 total days), so I could smoke it on a day I had nothing else to do.
Note: I Never cure for less than 8 days.

Day #13 (Remove from cure, and Prep for Smoking):
So after 12 days curing, I rinsed all 4 pieces off.
I usually soak my cured meats for a half hour or an hour, but since I never get any salt flavor, I decided not to this time.
I cut the biggest piece in half, and took a slice from the middle for my testing.
The center was dark reddish pink, so it was obvious that the cure got all the way in, and there was only a very slight salt flavor---Perfect!

I dried the pieces off, and managed to get them all laid out on one smoker shelf, after sprinkling some Black Pepper, Garlic Powder, and Onion Powder on both sides.
Then back into my meat fridge to await the next day's smoking.

Day #14 (Smoking Time):
6:00AM------------Preheat Smoker to 140˚.
6:30AM------------Put meat on 2nd position in MES. Sterilize Probes, and insert. Fill AMNS with Hickory Dust & light one end.
7:00AM------------Put AMNS on bars to left of Chip Drawer.
8:00AM------------Meat at 77˚ IT.
9:00AM------------Meat at 98˚ IT.
10:00AM----------Meat 108˚.
11:00AM----------Meat 114˚.
12:00Noon-------Meat 116˚. Bump Heat up to 160˚.
1:00PM-----------Meat 120˚.
2:00PM-----------Meat 124˚. Only 2" of Dust left to burn. I added about 1 1/4 rows of Hickory pellets next to burning Dust to ignite it.
2:00PM-----------Also Bump Heat up to 180˚.
3:00PM-----------Meat 132˚.
4:00PM-----------Meat 135˚.
5:00PM-----------Meat 137˚. Bump Heat to 200˚.
6:00PM-----------Meat 142˚.
7:00PM-----------Meat 147˚.
8:00PM-----------Meat 152˚.
9:00PM-----------Meat 157˚. AMNS ran out of fuel.
10:00PM---------Meat Temps from 158˚ to 162˚. Pulled all out of smoker.

Rinsed all pieces, patted dry, and cooled down to 100˚.
Then put in a bowl, and put in meat fridge for a couple days.

Day #16 (Slicing & Freezing):
Two days later, I moved the pieces to the freezer for 4 hours, and then sliced it all up.
I sliced the ends a little thicker for my Son.
He says the end slices are better tasting than any Jerky he ever had.
Then I sliced the rest as thin as I could, while still keeping it in full slices.

I ended up with 10 pounds, 2 ounces of the Best Dried Beef I ever tasted.

I put about 1/3 pound in each vacuum pack, and froze all but what we would eat in a few days.

I tried not to miss anything, but I'll try to answer any questions anyone has.




Bear




Trimming fat from 15 pounds of Eye Round Roast:
View attachment 339926


14 pounds left after trimming:
View attachment 339927


All weighed, and proper amounts of TQ in small plates to match each piece:
View attachment 339928


All ready for 12 days of curing:
View attachment 339929


Juice left in all 4 bags, after curing, was 7 ounces:
View attachment 339930


Sliced for Salt-fry Test. Color shows cure reached to center:
View attachment 339931


Salt-fry Test in progress:
View attachment 339932


Test showed "Just Right":
View attachment 339933


Ready for overnight in fridge before smoking day:
View attachment 339934


All pieces cut in half, and ready for slicing real thin:
View attachment 339935


Closeup to show color:
View attachment 339936


Victims all lined up:
View attachment 339937


All sliced up:
9 pounds, 7 ounces of slices, and 11 ounces of ends.
Total-----10 pounds, 2 ounces from 14 pounds of raw trimmed Eye Rounds:
View attachment 339938


Closeup of slices:
View attachment 339939


All ready for eating & freezing:
View attachment 339940

I found some TQ here in the Philippines but that bag will break the bank, with shipping charges from the USA it will be almost $50.00 for the bag...

 

[Bearcarver]

I found some TQ here in the Philippines but that bag will break the bank, with shipping charges from the USA it will be almost $50.00 for the bag...

OMG !!! That's terrible!
The only good thing I can say is a 2 pound bag will cure 64 pounds of Whole Meat (Bacon, Dried Beef, etc), or 128 pounds of sausage.

However I wouldn't blame you for using Cure #1 instead, with those prices!!!

Bear

 

[Winterrider]

Bear, my due date on dried beef is here. Will have to wait until Sat. or Sun. (weather) to smoke. Have you found in the past that the extra couple days has affected the salt taste more where it would need ice soaking instead of just a rinse? I plan on a fry test, but just kind of curious.

 

[Bearcarver]

Bear, my due date on dried beef is here. Will have to wait until Sat. or Sun. (weather) to smoke. Have you found in the past that the extra couple days has affected the salt taste more where it would need ice soaking instead of just a rinse? I plan on a fry test, but just kind of curious.

A couple extra days (longer than my calculation method) won't hurt, but I'd never Dry cure with TQ for longer than 14 days.
The only time I ever had to soak to eliminate salt flavor was many years ago, when I used "Hi Mt Cure & Seasoning", and I followed their directions.

Bear

 

[Winterrider]

A couple extra days (longer than my calculation method) won't hurt, but I'd never Dry cure with TQ for longer than 14 days.
The only time I ever had to soak to eliminate salt flavor was many years ago, when I used "Hi Mt Cure & Seasoning", and I followed their directions.
Ok, thanks for reply. I'll just rinse,fry, and go from there.

Bear

 

[SGMan]

Just sliced and froze my dried beefs. Cured for 14 days, soaked post cure for an hour or so (changed the water) and it smoked much quicker than I anticipated.
Pulled and sliced them today and they were a wee bit salty (right on the cusp of just right and almost a bit salty) so I made creamed chipped beef. (No not SOS - thats ground beef... FoR - PM me for the clarification) LOL

It totally toned down the (almost) saltness and made it a delicious dinner! The fam was happy tonight!!