Started brining chuck roast using Wayne's, @thirdeye - brine about 2 weeks ago. I did toast the spices as he recommended on his web site. I normally just go a week but they never really have that good pickling taste. I seen where Wayne goes two weeks. Boy did that make a difference. His brine is money! I put roast in pot with one can of Guinness in 325 oven. Man did this turn out good and very tender.