Check my Math Please.

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SonnyE

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Brain fart.
I thought I had this figured out, not so sure.
I want to make Back Bacon, aka Canadian Bacon.
I watched Disco's Back Bacon video, and have my Pork Loin ready.

But Disco sez, 3 grams P/Kg of pork for Cure.
So is that a divide, or a multiply calculation.
I'm trying hard to improve and using digital scales to portion my Cure, Salt, and Br. Sug.

Simple... but brain farting here.
1.097 Kg Pork Loin.
3 / 1.097 = 2.735g of Cure. (For example.)
1.097 X 3 = 3.291g of Cure.

(I'm beginning to long for my measuring spoons....)

I'm thinking multiply...
 
The diggingdog calculator says 2.74 gr of cure for 1.097kg of meat.
 
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Thank You Gentlemen.
Not worried, just trying to be sure.
Ask, before I screw up.

I divided, and I got good answers, like your Diggindog came up with Braz.
So division it'll be.

Thanks guys! Much Obliged!
 
Disco comes to the rescue!
He wrote:
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NO! You are using grams for the sugar and salt where I used ml. 1 ml is not 1 gram. 1 ml of salt weighs 1.28 grams, not 1 gram. 1 ml of brown sugar weighs 0.86 grams, not 1 gram.

I measure the cure by weight (grams or ounces) as it is critical and use measuring spoons for the salt and brown sugar (ml or tsp/tbsp).

So, for 1.239 kg you would need (3 grams X 1.239) 3.717 grams of cure #1. You would need (15 ml X 1.239) 18.585 ml of Kosher salt. That is 3 1/2 teaspoons of kosher salt which would weigh 23.8 grams. You would need (40 ml X 1.239) 49.56 ml or 4 tablespoons plus one teaspoon of brown sugar which would weigh 42.62 grams.

For 1.097 kg you would need (3 grams X 1.097) 3.109 grams of cure #1. You would need (15 ml X 1.097) 16.455 ml which is 1 tablespoon plus 1/4 teaspoon of kosher salt which would weigh 21.062 grams. You would need (40 ml X 1.097) 43.88 ml or 3 tablespoons plus 3/4 teaspoon of brown sugar which would weigh 37.763 grams.

For 1.122 kg you would need (3 grams X 1.122) 3.366 grams of of cure #1. You would need (15 ml X 1.122) 16.83 ml which is 1 tablespoon plus 1/2 teaspoon of Kosher salt. That would weigh 21.542 grams. You would need (40 ml X 1.122) 44.88 which is 3 tablespoons plus 1 teaspoon of brown sugar and would weigh 38.596 grams

The only item that has to be measured with exact accuracy is the cure #1.

I measure it in my small scale. I hardly ever use my scale for the salt or the sugar. I just grab 5, 15 or 25 ml measuring spoon and measure it out. Clos is good enough. However, I did the conversion to grams for you above if you want to measure.

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Sonny, evening.... Take a look at this....
1 kg = 1000 grams... divide that by 454 to get pounds.. = 2.2 pounds.... or use the grams...
0.0025 x 1000 = 2.5 grams of cure#1
0.0025 x 1122 grams = 2.805 grams cure#1

As far as Disco's volume measurements, I thought I taught him better....
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Thanks Dave!
Both of you use multiplication. NOT division. But that was my stumbling block.

My understanding was that Grams are a dry measurement. Whereas Milliliter are a liquid measurement. *
I like the Metric system because it is digital. No fractions.
And why Percentages also lend themselves to the metric system, and mesh perfectly.

I have a digital scale for weighing up to 5,000 grams (5 Kg), or 11 pounds. Got that for meat, or heavier items.
I also have my Reloading digital scale, up to 50 Grams. Or ounces, or grains. (It does count by weight, too. NA)

So I let the big scale Tare to a plate with a sheet of dry waxed paper. Then placed my rinsed and patted dry meat (Pork Loin) on the tare, to get an accurate weight. (Accurate being a subject of debate. But it is checked against a calibration weight of 50 grams.)
So I get my weight of the meat. Write it on the bag that piece of Loin is going in.

As I go along, I write the other ingredients on the bag as I calculate them, weigh them out, and prep the mixture in a small bowl. In this case, just 3 ingredients, Cure, Salt (Kosher), and Brown Sugar.

Cure is cure, and I think Prague Power is fairly standardized in its granular structure.

Kosher Salt granular size might vary from source to source, but if weighed, should be fairly correct from Rock Salt down to powdered salt. (I trust that is a correct assumption)

Brown Sugar is also subject to variables from source to source. But weight wise, should negate measurement methods, packing, and such variables.

So this is why weighing appeals to me. It puts everybody, and everything, on the same page. I think we can all agree on that. Assuming our scales are believable, calibrated, and checked.

* - Probably where my doubts arose from was where Disco referred to ml measurements in his video I was trying to follow.
I now realize Disco's MEASURING spoons are metric, and in ml. Where ours are based on Teaspoons, Tablespoons, ad nausium.

So I believe Disco uses 3 % Cure for his Back Bacon. And you use 2.5%, if I am following this correctly.
(.0030, or .0025 Percent in either case as the multiplier.)
Salt and Brown sugar, who cares, adjust to suit. But by weighing, a proper replication of the original recipe.

Sorry to exhaust a subject. But now I have NO DOUBT, and hopefully others might find confidence in how to use CURE, and accurately portion it to their meat.

Thank you all for helping bring light to this. It was a particularly stinky brain fart. :rolleyes:o_O
When Daniel Webster was defining the word Anal, he came and talked to me.

Shall we bury the horse?
 
Thanks Dave!
Keep that hammer handy.... LOL!

Tenths or hundredths of a percent. Got it.

Maken Jerky today, and bacon is two stages. Sow belly nearly to step 2 (12-17), Back bacon in the curing and lookin good, and two hunks of Loin to slice and get marinading.
So Jerky this morning. Got a recipe I just love.

Thanks Again, Dave!
 
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