33 Gallon Build with Vertical Cabinet - aka "The Copper Pot"

[civilsmoker]

I will be moving it a fair amount since my wife likes things "put away" when not in use. So after doing a little research I'm going to make some custom wagon wheels (5" to 6" wide). I'm going to make the hub out of DOM pipe so I can put some bearings (1 3/8") on each wheel. The front will be pivot steering that I will either make or just use a wheel hub and spindle. I think this will look cool and make it the back yard "meat wagon"

 

[motocrash]

That'll work like a champ. You will look like a hobo searching for roadkill while pulling it :D

 

[civilsmoker]

I went to the metal supply house today to pick up some 10" sch 40 pipe to make my wheels and saw a scrap 36" piece of 4" ID pipe so grabbed it cause I thought it would be simpler than my current plan. So when I got home I just wanted to double check the calcs in the tutorial and discovered that to be at 30 inch height the ID should be more like 2.75 to 3.

A while back daveomak made a recommendation 4" ID stack for a build on the exact same tank. So
daveomak could you or someone else explain why use a 4" over a 3"? Just want reconcile it with the calcs. I do know that smaller smokers don't flow as well so is this the reason?

On the same note, It appears to me from pictures that both Lang and Shirley use a lager dia but they are shorter (18" - 24" ) than 36". Medow Creel appears to use smaller dia but closer to 36".

I would appreciate some thoughts.

 

[ahumadora]

4" at 30" should be fine. Yes you are correct smaller smokers require more volume in the stack. Also stlye and overall look come into play when selecting shorter/fatter stacks.

 

[civilsmoker]

Today was a good day

Got the FB door completed as well as the VCC stack on. Question, should this be flush or be recessed say 3/4" to 1"? It's easy to add now....

I also got the hole for the HCC stack. I used the 4" and it actually looks pretty good. :-)

The stack will be a bit higher, just couldn't stage it that way for the pic.

 

[motocrash]

I don't know if the vertical stack should be stubbed into the CC.I wouldn't see any need the way your design is ??

 

[civilsmoker]

My plan wasn't to have it stubbed but thought I would ask to see if there was any theory in it.

It's flush now so I will roll with it that way.

 

[civilsmoker]

Today was the big day.....

After finishing the fire box guides for the ash tray and basket, it was assembly day :)

Next up is the wheels and cart....it has gained a little weight.....just like me over Thanksgiving.

 

[motocrash]

How do you actuate the plate/vent between HCC and VCC ?

 

[civilsmoker]

I will have a rod (pull lever) go through the side. Same for the FB to the VCC.

 

[motocrash]

Cool,that's exactly what I had in mind....1/4" smooth rod,cut some threads on both ends so one end screws into a nut welded to the plate and a handle screwed on the other with notches in the rod designating the opening of the plate.

 

[civilsmoker]

I was going for a little more simple than that. The plan is to over drill a hole and weld a smooth spacer in and then the rod will slide in and be welded to the plate. I will put a bend in the rod and put a spring handle on it. It will act as a simple push/pull lever. Out is open in is closed. The welded in spacer is to help reduce and "moisture" spill through. I will be putting a small shelf just above the 2 levers so they will be hidden underneath.

 

[motocrash]

That'll work just fine.I found a place online a while ago that had all sizes and shapes of nickel/chrome plated springs.I'll check my "smoker file" unless you already have a source...

 

[motocrash]

Here's the spring place :http://www.centuryspring.com/stove-...MIhpWVpPbd1wIVhGh-Ch0blwniEAAYASAAEgI8cfD_BwE

 

[civilsmoker]

Thanks, they seem reasonable especially since I need like 9 of them.

 

[motocrash]

I would think you'll get a quality product from them since they are the manufacturer and will custom make you any spring you want.

 

[civilsmoker]

I wasn't able to get as much done today as I wanted cause the water pump in my wife's jeep went south, so I spent the morning changing that out. But I was able to get the steel wheels and hubs cut. The bearings came today and they fit perfect as well.

I ended up cutting them at 3" wide because they just didn't look right at 6".

Next up is to build a jig for the wheel spokes and hub. The spokes are going to be 6 - 3" wide 1/8" inch plate. So they will be a paddle wheel.

 

[civilsmoker]

It was wheel day today. Started off by drafting up a spoke template.

Building the jig.

Got them all tacked up.

That was a bit of work but these things are stout.

 

[motocrash]

VERY NICE ! Stout you say...more like bulletproof(not really,I have a .50 BMG).You had a wheel good day!
What diameter and width?

 

[civilsmoker]

.50 BMG is all :)

They are 3" wide and 10-3/4" out to out dia.

The plan is to have 1" x 1/8" tube for the axle. Going to slide in 3/4" bolt.