2 1st actually my 1st time cooking with the vortex (off brand for 20 buck but same exact thing) and 1st time using holy voodoo rub from meat church. I have to say I like this thing my lid thermometer got above 500 deg so on the grate where the wings cooked was probably around 475 give or take a few degrees. I left 5 wings with just the voodoo and the other 5 had voodoo and a little bw3's carribeann jerk sauce on them. They all turned out great! Have to say the plain voodoo were everyone's favorite but both were great. Skin was nice and crispy and the wings were really tender and not dried out at all! I recommend getting one of these things if you have a kettle or egg grill/smoker.