venison question?

Discussion in 'Wild Game' started by lennyluminum, Nov 6, 2011.

  1. I want to smoke a whole backstrap but don't want it to be dry.

    I was thinking of wrapping the whole thing in bacon and smoking it much like a Boston but. Do you think if I smoke it to 190-200 it Will be fall apart like the pork or will it dry out?

    also should I put the rub on the meat or the bacon or both?
     
  2. drb111

    drb111 Newbie

    it will dry out...no question.  You only want to smoke a backstrap or venison roast to about 145 internal for medium rare to medium.  It is wonderful and juicy.  I soak mine in a soy based marinade overnight...air dry to room temp and smoke at 225 with a small amount of hickory. remove when internal hits 145.  slice and enjoy.  It won't last 10 minutes...serve with a spicy mustard and rolls.  It certainly won't hurt of you drape a couple of strips of bacon over the meat.  Unbelievable...I used to think I was "wasting" a backstrap this way.  This is a wonderful way to cook backstraps and small roasts.  I use Allegro hot n spicy marinade.  
     
  3. pineywoods

    pineywoods Smoking Guru Staff Member Administrator Group Lead SMF Premier Member

    I agree 190-200 would make it very dry. I use either Allegro or MoJo to marinade mine in I usually marinade 14-18 hours then I smoke to an internal of 140.  I have just draped bacon over it and that works as well
     
  4. ok sounds good
     
  5. michael ark

    michael ark Master of the Pit

  6. drb111

    drb111 Newbie

    Yeah...my advice to the poster was assuming his deer is among the 99%+ of the national population that does not have the disease.  
     
  7. mballi3011

    mballi3011 Smoking Guru OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

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    I'm with Jerry on this one and think you should not take it to 190°-200° unless you need new shoes soles. I also recommend to take it to 140°ish is good with a bacon wrap is another good thing.
     
  8. bearcarver

    bearcarver Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    What Piney & Mark said.

    Bear
     
  9. smokeamotive

    smokeamotive Smoking Fanatic

    I grill mine to 140-145ish marinaded in allegro. 190-200 would just ruin a perfectly wonderfull piece of heaven.
     
  10. Ok I will soak in allegro over night thne smoke till 140-145 slice and serve!! Thank guys

    Hey piney you still doin the get togethers at your place in North fl?
     
  11. pineywoods

    pineywoods Smoking Guru Staff Member Administrator Group Lead SMF Premier Member

  12. My family is wanting me to smoke a couple of deer hindquarters for Thanksgiving.  One is going to be on the bone and the other is going to be cut off into roasts.

    Any suggestions?  Should I pull them off the smoker when it reaches 150 internal?
     
  13. pineywoods

    pineywoods Smoking Guru Staff Member Administrator Group Lead SMF Premier Member

    Personally I would consider either brining them or draping bacon over them and I would pull them at 140-145 then foil and allow to rest in a dry warm cooler for about an hour before slicing
     
  14. Thanks, will upload pics after i cook them next week.
     
  15. coffee_junkie

    coffee_junkie Master of the Pit OTBS Member

    I would personally recommend de-boning, there is a reason that when you get a deer cut and wrapped professionally it doesn't include any "bone in cuts" The bones will not add a positive flavor as with domestic animals. I also trim all of the fat and silverskin from any roasts. Like pineywoods said pull them when they reach 140-145 max. Draping is bacon always helps from drying out, but is not totally necessary. Wild game always dries out and tastes like liver if you over cook it. Medium Rare is best.
     
  16. rbranstner

    rbranstner Smoking Guru OTBS Member


    I'm totally with you. The thought of that bone and tallow flavoring the meat makes my stomach turn. We cut off all the tallow and all of the tendon/silver skin that we can unless we are grinding it then we will leave some of the silver skin. Everyone is different and some people like that but my family can't stand it.
     
  17. bearcarver

    bearcarver Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    Absolutely agree on the Tallow!!!

    When I was a kid, my Dad used to leave a lot of fat on his Deer. Then after Dinner, we kids could scrape the wax off the roofs of our mouths with our fingernails!!!!

    We all hated that. A cold drink would make it worse. Then we would drink hot tea to try to melt it, and get rid of it. I guess it would coat our stomachs then???

    Deer fat is disgusting!

    Bear
     
  18. smokeamotive

    smokeamotive Smoking Fanatic

    I have to agree with Coffee Junkie,Rbranstner and Bear. Deer fat (tallow) and bone do not impart anything that I would call savory to the finished product. Venison needs to have all fat and bone removed and trimed of all major tendons and silverskin to allow the desireable favors to come out. I never take my deer to a processor. For a number of reasons, but foremost is the trim that I put on all the meat.   
     
  19. I process all my deer and always try to get all the silver skin, and the only bone pieces I have is a neck usually. The one on the bone happens to be my grandparents and they want it on the bone (said how they used to do it in the 40s/50s).  I think on that one I am going to rub it down like I did the 1/2 goat.  Smoke it for 2-3 hours then put it in a pan, cover it with onions, and use a mop/spray mixture on it, then cover the pan with aluminum foil and check it every 1 hour till the internal temp hits 145. 

    Thanks for all the suggestions.
     
  20. I usually grill Venison, going to try smoke for the first time tonight. I usually marinate in Crown Royal for 24 hours, the last 6 hours I pour in some A1 and Tobasco Sauce. 
     

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