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Robert3750

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Hello from California. I decided to try my hand at smoking. I just bought an Oklahoma Joe’s Highland smoker, and I thought I’d start by smoking some ribs. I’ve been watching Youtube videos, and the process seems fairly straightforward, but there are some things I’m not clear on. Here’s the process as I understand it from the videos:



Trim excess fat

Conflicting opinions about the need to remove the membrane. A compromise position seems to be to score the membrane.

Apply rub, with or without binder (mustard? olive oil?)

Put charcoal that’s been started in the chimney into the firebox

Add a chunk of smoking wood

Cooking chamber temp should be around 225 to 250 F. I bought a temp probe, because some say the external gauge doesn’t show the temp at the rack level

Here’s where opinions vary. Most seem to favor wrapping the ribs after three hours, others say it’s not necessary. Many don’t like the meat to fall off the bone, others do like it. I’m going to try wrapping, but only for an hour, followed by unwrapping and sauce application, then cooking for another hour.



Now here’s my question: I assume that if the ribs are wrapped, it makes no sense to use smoking wood. But to maintain heat, I assume I might need to occasionally add charcoal? Do I add unheated charcoal to the heated coals, or do I need to start them first?
 
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Why not use just real wood splits? But adding charcoal as needed should be fine straight from the bag, if u preheat them on top of the firebox they may light better and faster. I just use wood only and start the fire with wood splits and propane weed burner. After about 1-2 minutes I remove the torch and just use wood. I also put bricks or angle iron stainless on top of the firebox then wood on top of that. If u don’t use some type of insulator you’re wood can catch fire easily on top of the firebox
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this is a pretty small fire. Was pretty warm out and was running 225 for this. If I had my water pan in the cooking chamber the fire would need to be way bigger for 225
 
Appreciate the response. I think I was assuming that the charcoal would be cheaper, but that may not be a valid assumption.
 
Some of the things you mentioned there is no right or wrong way, just your preference.
Remove or not remove membrane. Your choice...
Binder or no binder. Your choice... I just use salt and pepper, no binder.
Wrap or no wrap. Few would wrap the entire time for the reason you mentioned.
Many do the 3-2-1 method - 3 hours naked, 2 hours wrapped, 1 hour naked for adding sauce if you choose to.
I do 4 hours naked (ribs, not me) at 275.
Probably many other variations.
 
Yep, as mentioned there really is no right or wrong way, I usually smoke them around 250. I usually dont wrap but that's just out of laziness 🤔. As for binder usually dont use, I put my rub on the night before and let them sit in the fridge. Membrane I just leave on, I dont score it or anything thinking it will hold the juices in, but that's my brain at work. I sauce them about an hour before taking them off. The best advice I can give you is dont over think smoking meat it really isnt rocket science. You just need to try different ways to see what you like best.
 
Yep, as mentioned there really is no right or wrong way, I usually smoke them around 250. I usually dont wrap but that's just out of laziness 🤔. As for binder usually dont use, I put my rub on the night before and let them sit in the fridge. Membrane I just leave on, I dont score it or anything thinking it will hold the juices in, but that's my brain at work. I sauce them about an hour before taking them off. The best advice I can give you is dont over think smoking meat it really isnt rocket science. You just need to try different ways to see what you like best.
Much appreciated. Regarding a rub, is it sufficient to apply it just on the meat side? It seems like you'd get a lot of waste if you tried to apply it to both sides.
 
Much appreciated. Regarding a rub, is it sufficient to apply it just on the meat side? It seems like you'd get a lot of waste if you tried to apply it to both sides.
I sprinkle on both sides, and pat it down.
But you are right, there is some waste doing the membrane side.
As smokerjim smokerjim said, season the night before, wrap in plastic wrap and into fridge.
 
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Hello from California. I decided to try my hand at smoking. I just bought an Oklahoma Joe’s Highland smoker, and I thought I’d start by smoking some ribs. I’ve been watching Youtube videos, and the process seems fairly straightforward, but there are some things I’m not clear on. Here’s the process as I understand it from the videos:



Trim excess fat

Conflicting opinions about the need to remove the membrane. A compromise position seems to be to score the membrane.

Apply rub, with or without binder (mustard? olive oil?)

Put charcoal that’s been started in the chimney into the firebox

Add a chunk of smoking wood

Cooking chamber temp should be around 225 to 250 F. I bought a temp probe, because some say the external gauge doesn’t show the temp at the rack level

Here’s where opinions vary. Most seem to favor wrapping the ribs after three hours, others say it’s not necessary. Many don’t like the meat to fall off the bone, others do like it. I’m going to try wrapping, but only for an hour, followed by unwrapping and sauce application, then cooking for another hour.



Now here’s my question: I assume that if the ribs are wrapped, it makes no sense to use smoking wood. But to maintain heat, I assume I might need to occasionally add charcoal? Do I add unheated charcoal to the heated coals, or do I need to start them first?
Hi there and welcome!

This is going to be a big post with a lot of info so bare with me :D
I think the guys are getting you on the right path for sure. BTW this site is the BEST and most accurate source of legit info you will find. It puts all those youtube videos and blogs, etc. to shame.

If just getting started I would say to keep it simple. Much information you read about in other places is all myth, ceremony, and extra unnecessary when it comes to smoking meat.
It's best to just start simple.

Your first battle will be learning your smoking, how it works, how to keep the heat going, and how to get good smoke.
THEN the next battle is dealing with the specifics and quirks of each kind of meat your cook. They are all different and have their own quirks or processes vs the same process for all of them being the same.

With that said, go with what is simplest to learn your smoker when it comes to your fire. I run an electric so I'm not the best source for telling you charcoal vs splits vs other things, but many guys here are great sources.
When it comes to food though I got you covered. Pork ribs are a great choice as they are pretty forgiving and again the simpler you keep things the better.

Seasoning Pork Ribs
if you pull the ribs out of the pack they wet juice on them will hold enough seasoning for you to not use a binder. I never use a binder on anything but that is because I pull it out of a wet pack or a wet brine etc and immediately season.
IMPORTANT: Ribs are extremely easy to over salt!!!! Rarely do you see anyone say this and you learn it the hard way.
Because of this I suggest you don't use any pre-mix rubs/seasonings. Simply go Pepper, Onion, Garlic, and if you want a little Paprika for more flavor and color and you can put little or plenty as it will be fine. THEN do the Salt but don't go too heavy, remember much of that cut is bones.

As for the membrane/bone side. I wouldn't go wild just rub a little seasoning back there and you are good, no need to season it much but I do like to have a little back there.
I left out sugar in the seasoning because you can always mop on bbq sauce or something like that towards the end of the cook and if you have sugar in the seasoning and want to cook at a higher heat then it can burn up and get bitter on you.

Membrane vs No-Membrane
I leave it on and cook to where the bone/membrane side of the ribs is towards the heat source. This is a preference thing but again in the name of SIMPLICITY and to reduce the number of things to worry about, I suggest leaving it on.
If you leave it on then it helps retain moisture and is easy to peel off when the ribs are done. Also you could stoke the flame at the end of the cook and burn it off or if you cook hotter it could basically just disintegrate.

Smoker Temp
Pork ribs do not care what temp you are cooking them as long as you aren't burning them. Notice I don't include any sugar in the seasoning suggestion above. We don't really do sugar in rubs in Texas but if you must have it then don't have a constant a smoker temp above 250F or else the sugar could burn and get bitter.
If you have no sugar you can do 275F no problem or even go hotter. Again as long as you aren't burning them, the ribs won't care.

I go to 275F with my smoker on ribs because there is no need for me to go lower AND that is the max temp that doesn't stress the foam insulation of my smoker :D

Also don't fret about your smoker temp being steady on this smoke. You can fluctuate all day between 225F and 325F and it will be ok as long as you aren't burning the meat.
Often you will find that your setup and your smoker will want to behave and hold only in specific ranges. Like many people report "my smoker likes to work around 250F so I just let it do it's thing", or some other temp.
Do not give into the myth of "225F, low and slow" for everything. That is not exactly accurate or efficient info, it is simply something that does work but at the expense of an approach that works MUCH better.
Think of it like this. You could walk up largest hill in town to get to the top and you would get there. OR you could get in your car and drive up to the top of the hill and get there with less hassle :D
The ribs don't care so again don't fret on your smoker temp, fret on how to make your smoker behave consistently and hold a temp consistently, and when to add fuel or mess with the smoker to keep consistency going at an efficient and acceptable temp for the meat :D

Cooking Method plus Wrap or Not
This too is preference AND dependent on how your smoker behaves. If your smoker doesn't retain moisture and dries things out easily then you probably want to wrap at some point.
I rock an electric smoker that holds moisture like a champ so I don't even have to add a water pan and I smoke ribs unwrapped the entire time for superior flavor and amazing bark.

if your smoker dries things up you may need to wrap once they look good like they have bark and you don't want to dry them out.

Next is "when are they done?" Pork ribs are a cut that is done when it is tender to your liking. You check for tenderness by stabbing with a toothpic and it going in with no resitance or you learn by how it feels when you pick it up. The toothpic is easier especially when starting out.

Now, a trick with pork ribs is that you can put a thermometer temp probe into the meat between the bones and when the meat temp reads 195F then you are in bite off the bone tenderness and getting to 200F or more is approaching fall off the bone territory.
I take mine to 198F and check for tenderness and they are good to go. I like mine to be bite off the bone but to where I don't have to do ANY fighting with getting meat off the bone, while at the same time it's not falling off the bone.

The things I just explained are the "quirks" of pork ribs and things to deal with them. A different cut of meat has a different set of quirks and way to deal with them.

So, foil wrap, 3-2-1, etc. can all work BUT they often don't explain that pork ribs are done when they are tender and that different size ribs may have different results with cooking methods that don't check for tenderness on ribs.



Answer to your initial question:
No, there is no need to add wood if you're ribs are wrapped. Wrapping in butcher paper may allow some smoke in but foil wouldn't and with pork ribs being a faster smoke I don't think it makes sense to be producing smoke when they are wrapped in any capacity.
I'll let the charcoal and split guy speak up on how you best to add more fuel to an existing fire but my understanding is you just add unheated charcoal/splits while there is still plenty of fire going and that will do the trick.



Conclusion
With you just starting out you will have plenty of learning and battles to fight with just figuring out how to operate your smoker. This is always the 1st battle, so keep the meat side of things simple. You chose pork ribs which are not difficult so that is a good start. Go simple with the seasoning and prep and the cooking process for them because you don't need to add more potential issues as you are learning.

I threw a lot at you so ask all the questions you have. Don't be nervous we all learn, you just have the benefit of lots of great guys and REAL experience here vs a video or a blog that just wants eyeballs and clicks versus educating you and ensuring you succeed :D
 
Hi there and welcome!

This is going to be a big post with a lot of info so bare with me :D
I think the guys are getting you on the right path for sure. BTW this site is the BEST and most accurate source of legit info you will find. It puts all those youtube videos and blogs, etc. to shame.

If just getting started I would say to keep it simple. Much information you read about in other places is all myth, ceremony, and extra unnecessary when it comes to smoking meat.
It's best to just start simple.

Your first battle will be learning your smoking, how it works, how to keep the heat going, and how to get good smoke.
THEN the next battle is dealing with the specifics and quirks of each kind of meat your cook. They are all different and have their own quirks or processes vs the same process for all of them being the same.

With that said, go with what is simplest to learn your smoker when it comes to your fire. I run an electric so I'm not the best source for telling you charcoal vs splits vs other things, but many guys here are great sources.
When it comes to food though I got you covered. Pork ribs are a great choice as they are pretty forgiving and again the simpler you keep things the better.

Seasoning Pork Ribs
if you pull the ribs out of the pack they wet juice on them will hold enough seasoning for you to not use a binder. I never use a binder on anything but that is because I pull it out of a wet pack or a wet brine etc and immediately season.
IMPORTANT: Ribs are extremely easy to over salt!!!! Rarely do you see anyone say this and you learn it the hard way.
Because of this I suggest you don't use any pre-mix rubs/seasonings. Simply go Pepper, Onion, Garlic, and if you want a little Paprika for more flavor and color and you can put little or plenty as it will be fine. THEN do the Salt but don't go too heavy, remember much of that cut is bones.

As for the membrane/bone side. I wouldn't go wild just rub a little seasoning back there and you are good, no need to season it much but I do like to have a little back there.
I left out sugar in the seasoning because you can always mop on bbq sauce or something like that towards the end of the cook and if you have sugar in the seasoning and want to cook at a higher heat then it can burn up and get bitter on you.

Membrane vs No-Membrane
I leave it on and cook to where the bone/membrane side of the ribs is towards the heat source. This is a preference thing but again in the name of SIMPLICITY and to reduce the number of things to worry about, I suggest leaving it on.
If you leave it on then it helps retain moisture and is easy to peel off when the ribs are done. Also you could stoke the flame at the end of the cook and burn it off or if you cook hotter it could basically just disintegrate.

Smoker Temp
Pork ribs do not care what temp you are cooking them as long as you aren't burning them. Notice I don't include any sugar in the seasoning suggestion above. We don't really do sugar in rubs in Texas but if you must have it then don't have a constant a smoker temp above 250F or else the sugar could burn and get bitter.
If you have no sugar you can do 275F no problem or even go hotter. Again as long as you aren't burning them, the ribs won't care.

I go to 275F with my smoker on ribs because there is no need for me to go lower AND that is the max temp that doesn't stress the foam insulation of my smoker :D

Also don't fret about your smoker temp being steady on this smoke. You can fluctuate all day between 225F and 325F and it will be ok as long as you aren't burning the meat.
Often you will find that your setup and your smoker will want to behave and hold only in specific ranges. Like many people report "my smoker likes to work around 250F so I just let it do it's thing", or some other temp.
Do not give into the myth of "225F, low and slow" for everything. That is not exactly accurate or efficient info, it is simply something that does work but at the expense of an approach that works MUCH better.
Think of it like this. You could walk up largest hill in town to get to the top and you would get there. OR you could get in your car and drive up to the top of the hill and get there with less hassle :D
The ribs don't care so again don't fret on your smoker temp, fret on how to make your smoker behave consistently and hold a temp consistently, and when to add fuel or mess with the smoker to keep consistency going at an efficient and acceptable temp for the meat :D

Cooking Method plus Wrap or Not
This too is preference AND dependent on how your smoker behaves. If your smoker doesn't retain moisture and dries things out easily then you probably want to wrap at some point.
I rock an electric smoker that holds moisture like a champ so I don't even have to add a water pan and I smoke ribs unwrapped the entire time for superior flavor and amazing bark.

if your smoker dries things up you may need to wrap once they look good like they have bark and you don't want to dry them out.

Next is "when are they done?" Pork ribs are a cut that is done when it is tender to your liking. You check for tenderness by stabbing with a toothpic and it going in with no resitance or you learn by how it feels when you pick it up. The toothpic is easier especially when starting out.

Now, a trick with pork ribs is that you can put a thermometer temp probe into the meat between the bones and when the meat temp reads 195F then you are in bite off the bone tenderness and getting to 200F or more is approaching fall off the bone territory.
I take mine to 198F and check for tenderness and they are good to go. I like mine to be bite off the bone but to where I don't have to do ANY fighting with getting meat off the bone, while at the same time it's not falling off the bone.

The things I just explained are the "quirks" of pork ribs and things to deal with them. A different cut of meat has a different set of quirks and way to deal with them.

So, foil wrap, 3-2-1, etc. can all work BUT they often don't explain that pork ribs are done when they are tender and that different size ribs may have different results with cooking methods that don't check for tenderness on ribs.



Answer to your initial question:
No, there is no need to add wood if you're ribs are wrapped. Wrapping in butcher paper may allow some smoke in but foil wouldn't and with pork ribs being a faster smoke I don't think it makes sense to be producing smoke when they are wrapped in any capacity.
I'll let the charcoal and split guy speak up on how you best to add more fuel to an existing fire but my understanding is you just add unheated charcoal/splits while there is still plenty of fire going and that will do the trick.



Conclusion
With you just starting out you will have plenty of learning and battles to fight with just figuring out how to operate your smoker. This is always the 1st battle, so keep the meat side of things simple. You chose pork ribs which are not difficult so that is a good start. Go simple with the seasoning and prep and the cooking process for them because you don't need to add more potential issues as you are learning.

I threw a lot at you so ask all the questions you have. Don't be nervous we all learn, you just have the benefit of lots of great guys and REAL experience here vs a video or a blog that just wants eyeballs and clicks versus educating you and ensuring you succeed :D
Thank you, good sir. The comprehensiveness of your response is much appreciated. I’ve been advised not to stress out too much on the temp, and can expect it to vary between around 215 to 260 (215 is where I should add fuel). Do I really need to add a water pan if I’m wrapping?
 
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Much appreciated. Regarding a rub, is it sufficient to apply it just on the meat side? It seems like you'd get a lot of waste if you tried to apply it to both sides.
I season both sides, whether it does anything in the membrane side not sure but I usually eat the membrane also, maybe I'm weird but I sort of like it. If your doing 2 racks season one on both sides and leave the other bare and see if you see a difference.
 
Thank you, good sir. The comprehensiveness of your response is much appreciated. I’ve been advised not to stress out too much on the temp, and can expect it to vary between around 215 to 260 (215 is where I should add fuel). Do I really need to add a water pan if I’m wrapping?
I hope some of it helps! :D

Yeah that sounds like solid info on your temp variation so I agree don't fret too much on it.

The water pan with water in it also acts as a heat absorber where water mass gets hot and sticks around hot to keep temps a little more even. Obviously if the water is gone then that mass is no longer helping but it has some additional benefit besides moisture.

I believe that once wrapped moisture from a water pan wouldn't do much.
 
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I hope some of it helps! :D

Yeah that sounds like solid info on your temp variation so I agree don't fret too much on it.

The water pan with water in it also acts as a heat absorber where water mass gets hot and sticks around hot to keep temps a little more even. Obviously if the water is gone then that mass is no longer helping but it has some additional benefit besides moisture.

I believe that once wrapped moisture from a water pan wouldn't do much.
Good point about the thermal mass of the water. I also plan to add firebricks to the cooking chamber, which should have a higher specific heat than water, and won't get used up. This should also help keep the temp even.
 
Good point about the thermal mass of the water. I also plan to add firebricks to the cooking chamber, which should have a higher specific heat than water, and won't get used up. This should also help keep the temp even.
Yep those should help. This is all part of figuring out your system :D
 
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Some of the things you mentioned there is no right or wrong way, just your preference.
Remove or not remove membrane. Your choice...
Binder or no binder. Your choice... I just use salt and pepper, no binder.
Wrap or no wrap. Few would wrap the entire time for the reason you mentioned.
Many do the 3-2-1 method - 3 hours naked, 2 hours wrapped, 1 hour naked for adding sauce if you choose to.
I do 4 hours naked (ribs, not me) at 275.
Probably many other variations.
Agreed. There is not one way for ribs. I would try a couple methods and find what you like best.

I started with 3-2-1

Then tried smoking straight through at 250 for about 6 hours (for BB), no wrap, no fussin. that is my method. I use olive oil as a binder. For St Louis membranes seem to come off easy, Baby backs tend to be impossible so the membranes stay on.
 
Much appreciated. Regarding a rub, is it sufficient to apply it just on the meat side? It seems like you'd get a lot of waste if you tried to apply it to both sides.
I do both. I pull the membrane and add anything hot I want on that side. Meat side I like SPG and will add some paprika for color at times. I like a dry rib so I spritz and only wrap for the rest.
 
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Hey Robert, I'm pretty new to the smoking game also. Have only done ribs twice. St Louis style. Both times I've used the 3-2-1 method and they have turned out great. As you have read here, many different ways to do them. That's what's great about this obsession, always something to learn and new things to try. Have fun in your smokey journey.
 
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I do both. I pull the membrane and add anything hot I want on that side. Meat side I like SPG and will add some paprika for color at times. I like a dry rib so I spritz and only wrap for the rest.
THIS. rub both side with a good amount of rub.
 
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