Well Dutch, it went something like that, the truth is we were playing a game of golf on the puter, and I forgot to take a before pic, and when I remembered, :roll: (beer and golf wager involved) supper was almost over. The 2 racks of ribs hung over both ends of the pan, and the wife gets those 25lb baker potatoes, one is enough for 2 or 3 people. We were all stuffed, even the dog could not finish all the bones. Let us know how those came out Brian, and Thanks, Bob-bqn, they were. BEAR