Sadly the Queen is dead.... Long Live the King..

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I will not get political here at all.

Sad she has passed , She was a figure head and a lot of folks still believed in the meaning of what she stood for
and to that they will miss her .

On a lighter note , We have to change all our money, again. lol

David
 
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The history of Politics.

Who ruled the Cave?

What type of person wants power?

Who writes history?​

The victorious always writes history, because the vanquished is dead. It should be no surprise then, that history is filled with stories about the victorious being the righteous, and the vanquished being the wicked. Of course there were actual times in history when the good did, in fact, overcome the bad, but one time in a thousand isn’t a track record we should be proud of, and we still have to rely, for the most part, on the writings of the victorious for these historical accounts.

With rare exception, the more ruthless is always the victor. Since the beginning of human existence, the more ruthless have killed the less ruthless, for power — this is precisely what is going on in the Middle East today, what is stirring in Asia, and what is going on in every government on the face of the planet, including The United States.

Long ago, small groups of primitive humans assembled into clans as a means of protection and survival. The meanest caveman became the leader of each clan, because he would club to death anyone that challenged him, even his own offspring, if only to get the fillet Mignon of the most recent kill (that the clan brought down), or to get the hottest cave girl.

The average caveman wanted only to eat, stay alive, and feed and protect his woman and children. If you were just an average caveman and you invented a new spear for hunting, the leader of the cave would just take your spear and call it his own, and he would kill you if you protested.

The leader of the cave had only to worry about one thing; the leader in the cave around the bend. He knew, that leader, like himself, would kill him in an instant to control his cave, hunting grounds, people, and take his women.

To defend himself from the leader in the other cave he had no choice but to let his cave mates live, because he would need them to fight when the other cave leader showed up. If it weren’t for this very fact, he would kill all of his cave mates leaving only the cutest women and a few men to help him hunt (really to hunt for him).

To keep his cave mates from rebelling, abandoning, or assassinating him, he had to give them only enough of “the pie” to keep them subdued. He had to find ways to control them and not let them learn that they were in fact, being controlled, for his benefit. Of course, he told them it was for their benefit too, and in an abstract, paradoxical, Machiavelli/Orwellian way, he had a point, because like the leader in the other cave, he would surely kill them if they didn’t do what he wanted.

These cave leaders evolved slowly over time into the kings and queens, emperors, sultans, dictators, warlords, and other leaders of societies, throughout all of history, and finally into the paragons of modern day society that we are so lucky to have ruling our lives today — Serial killers who are never satisfied and always need more, incessantly.

If not for the fact that, numerically, a society could rise-up and overthrow these paragons when they go too far, they would take everything we have – without hesitation – because they genuinely believe they have a Godly right to do so. They literally believe that what we possess is really theirs! They will never say so in public, but their actions speak louder than their words, and there are no angels on either side of the political sewer they flourish in – they are both equally guilty, always.

The only difference is the lies a person decides to believe.

Their trick is walking that fine line, sapping the average person of as much as they can extract from him, giving him only enough to keep him subdued, because he knows the average guy only wants a simple, safe, life – which is a complete paradox in light of our current world condition, and history.

It is never the average person, in any society, that starts wars. It is never the average person that invades countries, uses religion to justify oppression and murder, taxes people to death, or that runs companies like Enron and AIG into the ground, intentionally taking the savings of hard working people, or that manipulates the stock market (the biggest Ponzi-scam to ever be perpetuated in history), or that engineers too-big-to-fail, or that takes the money of productive people and gives it to non-productive people as compensation for their votes.. It is always the “paragons of society” that do this – elite, extremely capable, successful, intelligent, more often educated, professional career criminals.

Politics are lies designed to get little people to do the bidding of the politicians so the politicians can get the wealth and power they crave.

Of course there have been good politicians, but horribly far too few, and the good ones like Jesus and Gandhi somehow always wind up dead long before their time; but I am sure that is just a convenient coincidence, because, after all, no “paragon of society” would ever stoop that low…

So, what pathological lying serial killer are you going to vote for in the next election?
 
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Too many words….

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Gotta love message boards. The first word of the thread title is "Sadly". The OP feels sad about the Queen's death. So, others don't. Why click on the thread then just to crap all over it?

I'm starting to see what many long time members around here have said about the tone on this forum not being what it used to be.
 
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Gotta love message boards. The first word of the thread title is "Sadly". The OP feels sad about the Queen's death. So, others don't. Why click on the thread then just to crap all over it?

I'm starting to see what many long time members around here have said about the tone on this forum not being what it used to be.
I see it as a discussion. You don't have to agree, you can ignore if you choose.

I don't recall seeing anyone post that the OP shouldn't be sad.

The thread has evolved into a discussion about the worth of a monarchy and the downside of politics and government in general.

Some people are mesmerized with the monarchy, others not so much.

Feel sad? Sure, nothing wrong with that.

Presenting an opinion or a viewpoint someone doesn't agree with doesn't qualify as "crap".
 
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Gotta love message boards. The first word of the thread title is "Sadly". The OP feels sad about the Queen's death. So, others don't. Why click on the thread then just to crap all over it?

I'm starting to see what many long time members around here have said about the tone on this forum not being what it used to be.
It's uncalled for and highly disrespectful to our members from the UK, also.
 
Gotta love message boards. The first word of the thread title is "Sadly". The OP feels sad about the Queen's death. So, others don't. Why click on the thread then just to crap all over it?

I'm starting to see what many long time members around here have said about the tone on this forum not being what it used to be.
No one forced you to read anything.

There are many posts on this forum that I do not read. :emoji_thumbsup:
 
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Something I cannot help noticing while coming across some of the TV spots about the Queen and new King etc... the enormous wealth she and the royals enjoy(ed), which is evident in the palaces, properties and churches they worship themselves in. Pay attention to the interiors - it is beyond sick to realize that not a one of them "worked" to get any of it - their ancestors killed and oppressed little-people to get it and none of them ever feel a hint of guilt about it. And to this day - everyone else is paying for how they live!

I will never be able to comprehend it. How much is enough? When will societies/communities actually acknowledge that the love of money really is the root of all evil?

We all need to earn money to survive, and we all would like to enjoy more comfort - but really, how much is enough?

Anyways I am not looking for arguments from anyone, just thoughtful dialogue if possible without violating any forum rules I may be unaware of.

If not not worries and please accept my apologies.
 
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Something I cannot help noticing while coming across some of the TV spots about the Queen and new King etc... the enormous wealth she and the royals enjoy(ed), which is evident in the palaces, properties and churches they worship themselves in. Pay attention to the interiors - it is beyond sick to realize that not a one of them "worked" to get any of it - their ancestors killed and oppressed little-people to get it and none of them ever feel a hint of guilt about it. And to this day - everyone else is paying for how they live!

I will never be able to comprehend it. How much is enough? When will societies/communities actually acknowledge that the love of money really is the root of all evil?

We all need to earn money to survive, and we all would like to enjoy more comfort - but really, how much is enough?

Anyways I am not looking for arguments from anyone, just thoughtful dialogue if possible without violating any forum rules I may be unaware of.

If not not worries and please accept my apologies.
I agree. I appreciate the support the UK has provided to us and the world during wars and times of tragedy but I'm not going to mourn or celebrate one of the most oppressive monarchy's the world has ever known. I realize the family is mostly symbolic now but they still represent tyranny and oppression that goes back 1200 years.......people forget we fled the same thing they are now celebrating just a little over 200 years ago
 
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I agree. I appreciate the support the UK has provided to us and the world during wars and times of tragedy but I'm not going to mourn or celebrate one of the most oppressive monarchy's the world has ever known. I realize the family is mostly symbolic now but they still represent tyranny and oppression that goes back 1200 years.......people forget we fled the same thing they are now celebrating just a little over 200 years ago
And now we are enduring the same thing.

People like to say that the American Revolution was a "Populist Revolution." It wasn't - it was a Revolution led by the Rich Elite in America - something America will never see again.

Where they failed is that in order for America to be what they envisioned, requires good people to perpetuate the vision. There is no possible way America could have become what it is today, at the hands of good people.

Again, I am NOT endeavoring to insult anyone or their beliefs - I am just stating mine. I am open to arguments that prove me wrong.
 
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