You sauce/glaze outside pan.They are grill/smoking with thighs 1/2 submerged in butter/margarine to get bite thru skin and turning them occasionaly.....It works-believe me...The smoke flavor is minimal factor in chicken judging...Get a dynamite rub and procedure and your gonna do very well....He is putting 12 thighs in his box for 6 judges...You get big time appearance scores for this...