My smoking life.....another dumb idea...suggestions and ridicule welcome

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tombigbee

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Jun 7, 2014
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Folks, I've tried 'em all in 50 years of grilling and smoking. An 800 lb. steel plate behemoth offset with huge vertical cylinder....propane fired Big Block....electric Masterbuilt, and on and on. If I had the money back I spent on all this, I'd buy a new truck.

I've had a lot of delicious results over the years, BUT.....there's just something not the same as my early days. I just can't quite get the same results, and I may know why.

The best meat I ever cooked was on an aluminum grill that my Grandmother gave me as a wedding present in 1971. It was made by Birmingham Stove and Range, long defunct. It was almost identical to   http://www.pkgrills.com/the-pk-grill-smoker-classic-silver/  I cooked several thousand pounds of meat on that thing....steaks directly over a hot fire...boston butts, chicken, etc. with fire on one end, meat on the other (with vents under fire and over meat open, others closed), etc. etc.

I have a theory: Those results came from the fact that the meat was always in some proximity to the fire itself. They were always in direct line-of-sight with one another. This is not the case with an off-set....nor with propane or electric (no fire at all)....its also not true with most other smokers, and here nomenclature kicks in. It may be by definition a smoker does not expose the meat directly to any fire. So, if that's true, I might be looking for a grill that can also be used as a type of smoker. 

​With all of the smokers mentioned above, one of my problems is the inability to produce  outside meat....a lot of you call it bark...to any great extent, and that is essential to having good pork or beef in my opinion. Also, just try chewing the skin of a turkey or chicken done in a propane or electric. And yes, I tried turning the temp up at the end to crisp it , and that just doesn't do well. In the case of an electric with a 275 degree max, its a joke.

The aluminum one I mentioned above is too small for my needs today, so I'm askin'.....

Anyone know of a similar set-up in a larger size? It must have 4 adjustable air controls, and have a wide grill height adjustment range, something the old one did not have. Because of that, I don't think a barrel shape will work. I need a box or square shape with a very deep bottom to get enough separation between fire and meat when needed.

So, after the expected laughter subsides, feel free to lambast and holler at will. Thanks.
 
I've always been able to get great bark and flavor on the Weber products, both the grill and their smoker.  I cut my smoking teeth on a Kettle, smoking both on the cooking grate and on the charcoal grate.  Their bottom vent is different than you specified, but I didn't find that a problem.  Set the fire to one side and the top vent opposite the fire over the meat.  The fire pulls the air to one side then you get nice circulation for the exhaust.  You can limit the inflow of air with one lever and a few Sharpie marks for full, 1/2, 1/4 open, etc.  I've done everything from ribs to butts to 20 lb turkeys in my 22.5" Kettle.  You can do low n slow, or hot n fast, easily up to and over 500F.  Crisp skin on chicken and poultry is not a problem.  Bark comes out great on pork.  It takes a bit of babysitting, that's why I have the WSM, which is set and forget practically.    

Lot of options with the Weber grills. 

1.  Weber Ranch.  37.5" diameter.  $1300 to $1500.  1104 square inches.  (You can buy two WSMs for that half that price and have almost 1500 square inches of cooking space.)

2. Weber's 26.5" Kettle, at $299.  508 square inches of cooking space.  I've only ever seen one or two on Craigslist and they weren't local. 

3. Weber's 22.5" Kettle. $149.  363 square inches.  Sometimes as little as $20 on Craigslist and barely used.  Just recently I saw someone giving one away that was new and still in the box!  I didn't need another one but someone beat me to the punch. 

I would not recommend the 18.5".  I have one, and have smoked on it, but it is really only good for single butts, chucks, and a solo yardbird. 

Or, you could build a cinder block smoker/grill real cheap.  If I EVER need to cook say 20 butts, that's what I'd do.    

Have fun finding your answer.  The search is always a blast!     
 
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Read some great articles about Texas pit cooking low and slow over coals from burn barrels. They tend the coals and meat is flavored by the fat smoke more so than wood smoke. I too like fat smoke to help flavor the meat.. good stuff.
 
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