SlowmotionQue
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- Feb 6, 2019
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Perhaps guys....I see it the other way. This device adds some real wood flavor(which to me, has a different taste - thus far - with my smoking thus far). The temp spikes thus far haven't been anything more than when I leave the door open for an extended period of time so I'm ok with that and the PID auto-correcting itself over time. To me, that's what the PID should do and does. So while I only have a few cook under my belt with the heavy D, I've happy. I have learned though that keeping the Heavy D in will not allow my Bull to get to max temps. I used t be able to get to 600 and with the Heavy D in, I could only get to 536. So from now on when just grilling and not using any extra wood, I will just take the heavy D out and save it for long smoke cooks like Ribs and brisket and such. I may try it with wood sometime with high temps but not sure if that is a great idea because it will most definitely start a fire.
SlowmotionQue - best of luck to you. You have the right grill if you want consistency....anytime you do an add-on like the Heavy D, you have to expect things to not work as designed but the whole prop open the door trick would never work for a Rec Tec because of the PID controller would just make it work hard and raise the temp.
And best of luck to you as well kstone. But seriously, I'm trying to take as much of the "luck" out of this as I can.
Of course, already, you are seeing that the Heavy D is causing your Bull to not works as well as it should were it stock, in that your Bull is hitting a lower top temperature with it, than it can without it.
That's robbing you of some of your grill's capability right there. Even while it's empty and contains no wood. Likely on account of it being made of such a heavy gauge steel which has to take some time and effort to heat up itself.
My best prediction, is that you may, or actually will, discover up the road, that whatever it is offering you in "taste" in smoking efforts, is offset, or more than offset in what it will end up costing you in terms of temperature control.
If I had wanted a pellet grill which ran with temps jumping all over the place, I would have bought a Traeger, a Pit Boss or a GMG.
When you eventually get sick of not being able to tell if your temps are going to get out of control or not, and no better than someone running a $300.00 Pit Boss or a Traeger in your PID controlled pellet grill, you'll end up pulling it from your lineup too. Despite any taste advantage, perceived or otherwise, it gives you.
I give you another half dozen to one dozen long cooks, brisket length or good sized pork shoulder length cooks, I'm talking 12 hrs plus, before you start considering, if not outright deciding, to pull it from the rotation entirely.
Already you've pulled it from your everyday pellet grilling duties.
"...So from now on when just grilling and not using any extra wood, I will just take the heavy D out and save it for long smoke cooks like Ribs and brisket and such...."
Yep.
And then the time will come around when you conclude that it is too unpredictable to even leave for your "long smoke cooks like Ribs and brisket and such"
Well, ribs you might get some use out of it as ribs are "short" cooks compared to brisket.
.... The temp spikes thus far haven't been anything more than when I leave the door open for an extended period of time so I'm ok with that and the PID auto-correcting itself over time. To me, that's what the PID should do and does.
Eventually the Heavy D will surpass your PID controller's ability to correct cooking chamber temperatures.
Look at it this way, the PID controller can slow the rate at which pellets make it into the burn pot and the airflow and hence control chamber temperatures.
But what if.....what if ...you were to shut the grill off completely and just allow a fully loaded Smoke Daddy Heavy D burn inside of it, beneath your grease pan?
How hot do you think that the grill would eventually get, even if it were turned off completely with the wood in the Heavy D either completely or partially in flames?
In such a circumstance, it would certainly get hotter than any temp at which you would normally smoke meat. And you would have a hell of a time getting it down without opening the lid and either leaving it open until the wood burned out, or periodically opening it to let heat out.
On a side note, with that flame in there and your Bull's center located auger leading from a 40lb hopper, at what point will you start to consider the possibility of burn back?
But my point is, eventually it is possibly going to take your PID controller and it's ability to control chamber temperatures, completely out of the picture.
Please respond to this post when you discover this. Like I say, my prediction is that it won't take you too much longer to experience just what I describe above.
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