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had it with Masterbuilt looking for recommendations

Discussion in 'Electric Smokers' started by john wheeler, Dec 8, 2018 at 12:41 PM.

  1. hello from Florida. thank you for letting me jump in and whine.my Masterbuilt ES 130 just went tits up with a 12lb brisket ready to go on.Same issue as everybody else. digital controller went on the fritz nd it won't heat past 150 ith wildly flucuting temps.I trvel extensively nd don't have the time or attention span for charcoal and fussing with it. his unit worked good for bout 15 smokes. always faltered when 20 peopl were abtou to show up. I love the side tube for loading chips. like the idea of set it and forget it. got the 2 year replacement from Home po fter reding about the issues, so I get a full refund. now I need another smoker. what are y;all that have trashed these units switching to?
    thanks for listening
    John
     
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  2. gmc2003

    gmc2003 Smoking Guru

    Sorry to hear about your smoker dying. Don't be to quick to knock charcoal. The WSM is basically a set-it-n-forget-smoker, but charcoal isn't for everyone.

    Chris
     
  3. Charcoal can be set it an forget it or at least 99% so. The aid of a good charcoal appliance coupled with some a BBQ Guru and you set. The downside is the cost of entry. A good appliance $300 on the low end and another $200 to $300 for the Guru and your set.

    I've used a BBQ Guru with large BGE for years and am very happy. A 10 pound charge of charcoal will burn around 40 hours undisturbed at 225 degrees.
     
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  4. SonnyE

    SonnyE Master of the Pit SMF Premier Member

    I'm looking at Pellet Smokers next, myself.
    Not a grill type, but a real vertical smoker that uses pellets.
    But I keep drooling over a Smokin It #3.5D

    Because it has room to hang with.
    But
    Sausage Maker has some fine smokers as well.

    So if you think you might ever like to make BACON, or smoke a ham, you might want to buy once, cry once, and enjoy reliable smoking.

    The Sausage Maker smokers have a high hanging bar to hang things from. I like the Country Smoker with the red roof.
     
  5. thanks all for responding. I was hoping someone would pop in and say that Masterbuit had fixed the issues on the latest generation.it is n ideal smoker for me. I fly almost every monday, and cherish my weekends and love to cook. sometimes it' jut rotiserie on my big-a55 Napolean. typically it's just a rack o ribs or a brisket flat, or a mess of pterdactyle wings., a nice butt or wht have you. Today the controller took a Sh%t right when my flat hit the stall and I hv to keeep runnin out and fooling it by settting on 275 and turning off to not over cook. of ourse I'm crutching it, so I can't F^& it up that much. I just want an easy set-it and forgwt it smoker. (Cause I'm lazy)
    PS excuse the typing. I had a stroke9 months ago and my typing isn't fer sh%t any more
     
  6. Scott Eisenbraun

    Scott Eisenbraun Smoking Fanatic SMF Premier Member

    You sound like a potential pellet grill smoker buyer. Set and forget, but you won't get as rich a smoke flavor as you did with the ME. You can add a pellet smoking tube to supplement for more flavor. You don't say what you want to spend, but pick a point between $700 and $3500, there are a ton of options at every price.
     
  7. daveomak

    daveomak Smoking Guru OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    https://www.sausagemaker.com/30-lb-Digital-Country-Style-Smoker-p/19-1012.htm

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    Please allow up to 1-2 weeks lead time if your order is between production runs.
    Call for current lead time, if any, @ 716-824-5814.


    Our original rooftop design creates a larger interior height, allowing you to hang longer fish, larger ham, more sausage and bigger bologna. The top is removable to make both the loading and unloading of meat and the cleaning process easier than with front-only loading models. With a capacity for 10 shelves and an extra bracket for hanging meat, the Country Smoker helps you smoke more fresh meat at a time. The Smoker features a smart cooking thermometer that allows you to connect to your phone via an app for easy and convenient monitoring.

    Features include:
    • Digital control & internal temperature sensor built-in for precision
    • Smoke diffuser lowered to maximize meat capacity
    • Smoke diffuser ventilated to disperse smoke more evenly.
    • Drip collecting base directs drippings underneath smoker.
    • Large rear casters and push/pull handle allow easy mobility.
    • Raised heating element for cleaning clearance underneath the burner.
    • 1000 Watt, 110V Heating Element

    Smart Cooking Thermometer Specifications :
    • Displays temperature in real-time
    • Comes with 2 temperature probes
    • Wireless Range : 50 meters / 150 feet
    • Built in Timer and Temperature Alarms : Done Temperature Alarm, Range Alarm, Time Count-Down Alarm.
    • Works with iPhone 4S or later, iPad 3rd generation or later, iPad mini or later, iPod touch 5th generation and later, Android 4.4+ devices with bluetooth 4.0 module.

    Specifications:
    • Top bracket for hanging ham, and turkey
    • Full Stainless Steel Construction
    • 1 3/4” distance between shelves.
    • Optional opening for steam generating
    • Inside Dimensions: 16 3/8” W x 15” D x 24” H (minimum) 32” H (maximum)
    • Outside Dimensions: 23 1/2” W x 18 1/4” D (23 3/4” w/ rear handle) x 47” H
    • Roof Dimensions: 22 3/4” W x 18 1/2” D

    Comes With:
    • 4 Shelves
    • 3 Wood Dowels
    • Stainless Steel Sawdust Pan
    • Removable Shelving Brackets
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  8. nepas

    nepas Smoking Guru Staff Member Moderator Group Lead OTBS Member ★ Lifetime Premier ★

    I use a TSM no hooked up with a PID. Have went through MES POJs and Bradleys.
    My TSM blows the doors off them all.

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  9. hillbillyrkstr

    hillbillyrkstr Master of the Pit Group Lead

    Look into a “Smokin it” Smoker.
     
  10. 5GRILLZNTN

    5GRILLZNTN Smoking Fanatic SMF Premier Member

    I'm with GMC on the WSM. Once you get around a brief learning curve, it's pretty much set and forget. For the price of a decent pellet pooper, you can have a WSM, an A-MAZ-N tray (for cold smoking) and a wifi temperature probe. Also, charcoal and flavor wood is much easier to find than pellets. A lot of grocery stores will have the charcoal, flavor wood, meat to smoke, and beer to drink. One stop shopping. You can also remove the center section, place the grate on the charcoal ring, and have a great grill for burgs, dogs, steaks, etc...
     
  11. Lonzinomaker

    Lonzinomaker Fire Starter

    My Smokin-It #3 is very close to set and forget. I just smoked some salmon earlier this week when it was 16 deg above and didn't have to do anything different than I did when the temperature was 60 deg.
     
  12. Winterrider

    Winterrider Meat Mopper SMF Premier Member

  13. tomd8

    tomd8 Fire Starter

    I'm with 2 others above and say look into a Smokin-It. Built like a SS tank and pretty much a set it and forget it....even the analog. I believe adding a PID to the analog at a later date, if the PID ever fails you would still have an analog smoker. Smart design, heavy duty shelves, removable shelf slides and very well insulated.
     
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  14. Winterrider

    Winterrider Meat Mopper SMF Premier Member

    I'm quite sure it will. Search back for MES rewire, Tallbm has photos of different units for rewiring. If can't find, PM him. He was great help when I did mine.
     
  15. tlcasper

    tlcasper Newbie

    You can see my review of the Pit Boss electric in this section. I have been very happy with it.
    It's in the same price range as the MES and Bradley electric smokers.
    Pit Boss also has vertical pellet smokers, the Copper Head series, and a 5 year warranty on all of their vertical smokers.

    If you liked the side load for chips on the MES, you'll really like the front load tray on the Pit Boss. Large heavy construction, can be loaded and emptied without opening the door.

    There are a number of good suggestions here. Good luck.

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  16. Braz

    Braz Smoking Fanatic SMF Premier Member

    Since I added an Auber PID and a AMNPS tray, and did TALLBM's rewire I am very happy with my Gen.1 MES 40 smoker.
     
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  17. Bearcarver

    Bearcarver Smoking Guru OTBS Member


    OK---I'll be that guy who pops in & tells you that the Newest MES 40 "The Generation #2.5" is easily the best unit in Masterbuilt's Stable." Mine is a few years old, and has never given me a hard time. Along with an AMNPS (5 X 8 Tray), it is about as Set & Forget as I could want. No Mods needed either.

    Bear
     
  18. thank you all. i need to study my acronyms
     
  19. AP514

    AP514 Fire Starter

    luv'n my MES 40 ...(the newer version-lower)but have way less time on mine(a few months) Bearcarver is the go to guy on these..
    So, +1 to what he says :)