Gas Prices???

[912smoker]

With all due respect I'd suggest you do some careful trials and pay close attention. From what I've seen in print a 25% loss in mileage is on the low end of the difference between e10 and e85. I've heard of up to a 40% loss. Based on my own experience between e0 and e10 I loose 10%.
Alcohol will burn but it contains far less btu per gallon than gasoline. You can make a lot of power with it providing you burn enough of it. IOW poor mpg.

I guess saying I run a blend of E85 and regular gas is a better description.
Ave around 1000 miles per week and I get the "juice" when I have the opportunity and usually not a full tank is needed. I haven't put the pencil to it but my computer says 21.6.
Have never been the guy who goes all over town hunting the lowest prices but will stop by the Race Track, when I'm in the area, for a .80 per gallon savings(and love the extra pony boost ).


Keith

 

[bigfurmn]

Just saw $3.99 got the first time in a few months here in Minnesota.

 

[Chris_in_SoCal]

A new Shell station just opened up outside of our housing tract. I bought $60 worth at $5.76/gallon.

That is cheap as it gets in California these days. I'm guessing it was heavily discounted for a new station.

 

[mike243]

Filled the wifes car yesterday, $3.47 it took $45 , put $30 in my old truck to go mow Thursday and it was a touch over 8 gallon, didn’t want to look at ppg as its a small gas station but would have cost me more to drive to a cheaper place. It costs what it costs.

 

[in. pred]

3.12 in indiana now

 

[Barefootdog]

Diesel in Eugene, Oregon has dropped $.90 to $1 to $5.39.

Why in the world don't we build more refineries and use our massive crude reserves to lower/stabilize prices for fuel, fertilizer and all down stream petro products.

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[JckDanls 07]

Diesel in Eugene, Oregon has dropped $.90 to $1 to $5.39.

Why in the world don't we build more refineries and use our massive crude reserves to lower/stabilize prices for fuel, fertilizer and all down stream petro products.

(EDIT)

Because then they wouldn't make their billions of dollars profit EACH QUARTER ...

 

[Displaced Texan]

I saw something recently that said it takes roughly 30 years to pay off the cost of building a refinery. With the uncertainty of IC engines being outlawed, no oil companies are willing to take the risk.

 

[Barefootdog]

Because then they wouldn't make their billions of dollars profit EACH QUARTER ...

I saw something recently that said it takes roughly 30 years to pay off the cost of building a refinery. With the uncertainty of IC engines being outlawed, no oil companies are willing to take the risk.

Unlikely these two answers can exist at the same time.

On the west coast I know this....Refineries are being taxed and regulated out of business. They are importing finished fuel from 1/4 to 1/2 way around the world rather than produce fuel under Californian taxation and regulation. California is sitting on an ocean of crude oil....that no body is allowed to develop. So crude comes from 1000's of miles away. I don't believe there are pipelines from the Gulf across or through the Rockies. They wanted to put a LNG export terminal at Coos Bay, Oregon, a fine deep water port on the mid Oregon Coast. Greenies went nuts. So unemployment in Coos Bay remains at 5.1% to 5.8% compared to the national average of 3.5% to 4.4%.

And so the west coast remains starved for fuel with the highest prices in the lower 48.