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Brisket Questions and Help

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Hello All,

I am new to the forum and I am in need of help and I have several questions, all help/suggestions are appreciated. Also I am making a brisket for my subdivision in 2 weeks.

1. After I cook the brisket and its out of the smoker. After the first slice(or around 11 am) how do I continue to keep the brisket moist throughout the day without drying out?

2. What is the significance of putting the brisket in the cooler and cooling off vs just cutting right after it comes off the smoker?

3. Im sure its subjective but what is everyones consensus on smoking the brisket and it being moist straight off the smoker: HD Foil, butcher paper or naked?

Thanks again for your help!
 
I’m no expert, but I’m happy to share what I’ve learned in the dozen or so briskets I’ve done. . . The importance of letting the meat rest after cooking is to let the juices redistribute back into the meat. If you’ve ever cut into a steak right off the grill, you probably found your steak swimming in all the flavorful juices that you wish could have made it to your taste buds with the meat. Same idea with the brisket.
As far as wrapping, I prefer butcher paper to foil. The foil tends to give it a “pot roasty” taste in my experience. However, if your tight on time, wrapping in foil could save you 3-4 hours when fighting through “the stall”.
For your first question, if you let the meat rest long enough in the cooler (at least 1 hour) you shouldn’t lose too much moisture when slicing. If you make a few slices, then wrap it back up and put back in the cooler, you should be able to keep it warm and moist for some more slices later.
Hope this helps!
 
Welcome to the forum. I can give you what works for me. Others may vary slightly but we all have found the basics are similar. For more sliced and less chopped I smoke to an IT of 198-202 area. Use something with a sharp point to stab it in several places. If it is all the consistency of butter anywhere you poke, it is done. You will have most sliceable, and some that will be so tender it will have to be served as chopped. Do pay attention to the grain before you smoke it so you can slice across it. I put a tooth pick in for a marker. It is much easier to tell before you smoke it.

For large events, I smoke the day before because you never know how long it will take. I think it is as good warmed up in a crock pot or roaster with a little water and a little left over juice on it the next day as it is fresh right out of the cooler. 10-12lb will take somewhere between 16 to 24 hours at a 225' smoker temp. Each piece of meat is different even if they are the same shape and weight. Foiling at about 160-170 will speed things up through the stall a little most times but the bark will be softer. I save a little of the juice mixed with water for reheating.

It has been my experience that if you do not let it rest in the cooler at least an hour or so (I prefer 2 hours minimum) it will be very dry and tough. Resting with a couple towels around it in an ice chest gives time for the juices to continue moving around and making it tender. I did accidentally have to let one rest 5 hours one time. It was still very hot to slice and very tender when I pulled it out.

I have used a larger crock pot for reheating, and also one of the bigger older white "roasters" with the sliced brisket in foil with some other things heating at the same time. Be sure to allow plenty of warm up time, it will take a couple hours if it is pretty full.

This is how I do things for the Ham Radio Christmas parties I do each year. I usually do a brisket, a spiral cut ham on the smoker grill a couple hours, and grill and smoke some balonoga chubs sliced in about 3/8 inch slices with BBQ sauce and cut in half afterward. We usually have some leftovers with 35 or so people bringing sides. Give it a try and see how it works for you.

Good luck, follow the above and most likely you will be nominated again for the next event where you can fine tune for doing it even better. Be sure and give us a detailed report back and let us know how it worked out.
 
Got it! So wow i thought it didnt make a difference of eating fresh off the smoker vs putting in the cooler. Now when in the cooler, wrap it in Foli, BP or towels in addition to the BP or foil for about an hour?
So when I take my full packer brisket to slice and one person wants lean and the other wants marbled, since I am cutting two different parts of the brisket, once sliced you are guys saying to wrap back up in foil, or BP and put in the roaster, crock pot or oven? Not sure if my crock pot would hold the brisket, so would the oven work as well? If so what temp should i keep it on to keep it warm but still moist throughout the day.

Better yet, lets say at 11 am, I make 10 sandwiches and I dont make my next sandwich until 1 or 1:30. The brisket stays in the oven or crock pot until then?

Thank again you all have been helpful
 
This is where each one of us have our own particular detailed methods that work for us, but the basics are very similar. None of them are wrong or necessarily better than the other for each of us, just different and might change the outcome slightly or not in very small ways that suits each one of us better. Like using different spices in our rubs, or different woods. That is what is so great about this site, all of us sharing opinions for us to try. Then we can find what works best for each of us and share our experiences for others to consider.

Like me, I tried BP a couple times and it was too leaky and messy for me for the slight change in flavor it made for me, so I went back to easy with a double wrap of heavy foil and I am happy with that. Just me. I also have varied the resting time. One hour is the bare minimum for what works for me, I try to do a minimum of two hours when I can, I find it makes the meat more tender for me.

In my opinion with the "lean or more marbled" comment you might be thinking of something like serving custom sliced prime rib, which is a whole different animal than what I think you will be preparing and serving here. I am thinking a good smoked BBQ brisket sandwich with your friends selecting hot, or plain BBQ sauce to fit their taste buds with some sides as your neighbors come by out in your garage. Right? If it is tasty tender brisket, they are not going to be too particular of lean or marbled, sliced or chopped. Just my opinion.

Myself, the reflective foil keeps the heat in while insulated in the cooler resting. I throw a bath towel folded cooler size in the bottom. put the foiled brisket in the middle, put another folded towel on top and let it rest or "cure" if you will a couple hours. I then pull it out of the cooler, easily scrape off most of the fat while is hot and slice it all up across the grain. It will still be steaming after 3 hours. You can easily trim more fat off each slice after slicing if you like.

You will have some nice slices you will most likely cut in half for sandwich length and you will also have some "chopped" on your cutting board that go in the pot also to fish out with a slotted spoon to serve later. (Actually my favorite sandwich) This way you are handling it once on the cutting board, stacking it once in your crock pot and if it all does not fit, put the rest in a covered pan to keep warm in the 160' oven to refill your crock pot when needed later in the day. Keeping it covered will help keep the moisture in, be diligent at covering it in between serving if you have long pauses.


Again to me for Beginner Basics, pick a rub to try, Jeff's Rub is a good starting point, you can adjust it later to fine tune to your taste buds if you might like. Keep your smoker temp at least 225', don't get too excited if it varies up 20' at times, so what, some here do their entire smokes at 300' or more, but it is a little different style. Keep smoke rolling until it reaches 160' IT, then you can double wrap, again I use foil, and you can stop the smoke. Start probing around 200' IT. If you still have some tough spots, take another look in 30 min or so till it is all tender. Drop in the cooler at least an hour, longer does nothing negative. Slice across the grain, and enjoy now or package for later.

If you have time and the ability I would try to do a practice brisket this weekend for you and your family. You can zip lock the leftovers and put into the freezer for easy meals later. If you could do that, you will be way ahead of the game and get more relaxed sleep next weekend.

Hopefully some others will share their thoughts and tips also. Good luck to you
 
Now you have done it. I was thinking about what to have for a late lunch. How about going to the freezer and getting out a little brisket for a sandwich. It was quick and tasty. Thanks.
 
@801driver - I am smoking a practice brisket as we speak lol. However, I do not have a cooler, so what should i set the brisket in and after I wrap it in butcher paper should I still wrap with towel as well?
 
Pull the brisket when it is probe tender in the thickest part of the flat.. Let it sit on the counter uncovered for about 10mins.
Then stick it in the oven covered at 140.
Coolers aren't that expensive, might want to invest in one if you plan on cooking a lot of brisket.
 
Sorry I was out of pocket yesterday. Lets be clear my terminology is fitting. I a referring to a plain old ice chest like you would pack to take to the park or lake for the afternoon, can be fancy or one of the cheap Styrofoam ones most grocery stores have for just a few dollars, They will work well if you physically take care of them to not break them, or something like Omaha Steaks send their stuff in.

The idea here as with the above suggestion, you want it to "rest" at almost cooking temperature and slowly cool down reabsorbing the juices. Not really cooking to a higher temp, just maintaining that warm temp for a couple hours.

I do hope it came out tasty and tender, and you got one notch under your belt. Let us know.
 
Good Day,
So I did my practice brisket. Overall was really good. I did let this one sit for 2 hours. I want to give it another hot but i didn't see a massive difference from letting it sit vs cutting it right off the smoker.
The brisket came out good, however though my flat was tender, I would have liked it to be just a little more moist. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to get a more moist flat? Again, it passed the pull apart test etc but i would have liked it a little more moist.

Thanks again
 
@801driver - I am smoking a practice brisket as we speak lol. However, I do not have a cooler, so what should i set the brisket in and after I wrap it in butcher paper should I still wrap with towel as well?

Hi there and welcome!

I wrap my brisket in double foil. Then I wrap in 3 bath towels and it holds temp with no issue for 4-6 hours! No cooler needed.

As for your earlier question about slicing for lean vs moist and keeping warm... well I just slice the whole thing up and then put it back in the foil (foil in a pan). I just then close the foil back up and it will hold temp pretty well for an hour or so. Honestly it gets eaten up so fast and it taste so good even at room temp that no one cares. If you have a microwave around that is the simplest way to deal with the meat if it hits room temp.
If you try and hold or crock pot it or anything like that you may end up with shredded beef vs sliced brisket as the heat may continue to tenderize it.

If you ahve the brisket sliced and wrapped in double foil and sitting in a pan (normal or throw away aluminum. It wouldn't hurt to wrap it in a towel or two as well. You just do a bunch of uncovering and rewrapping as needed.

Honestly the stuff should go so fast, is still so good at room temp, and should stay warm with no real effort that I think you won't have any issues with it. Get it cooked correctly first and the other stuff will be small potatoes :)
 
Had another quick questions guys so again I will be selling brisket sandwiches and brisket tacos. From a selling stand point, how many of oz's of meat should i do per sandwich and how much per street taco? Selling sandwiches for $7 and street tacos 2 for $5. The brisket I will be smoking is 10.75 lbs.

Thanks in advance
 
Depends on the size of the bun for the sandwich. Plus you should decide on how much meat and THEN set your prices. I know if I were cooking for myself I’d probably want 4 oz per sandwich and 2 oz per taco (if there is going to be toppings).
 
Hello All,

Brisket sold out both days of the garage sale. Here's one of them. 10.4 LBS smoked for 15 hours.
Everyone raved about them. However, with being my harshest critic here's where i need some advice/help.

My first brisket, i didn't time it right and had to slice right out of the smoker and temp read 188 degrees.
The flat passed the pull test and was somewhat tender. The point was very good!

My 2nd brisket, smoked, seasoned same as the first one. Smoked for 16 hours and temp read 201 degrees.
I let the brisket rest for 1.5 hours.
However, my flat appeared dry and wasn't as moist as the first one that a sliced right off the smoker.
The point was good but not as juicy as the first one. I was looking for more tenderness since I let it rest.
What could I have did wrong here?

How do I make my flats more tender and juicy? My cook method is I prefer to smoke the brisket without foil to get a tasty bark. What temp should my flat be at to give it a moist consistency? Again, no one complained, everyone loved it but I would have like it do be more juicy/tender. Why is it that my 1st one that didn't rest came out better?

Thanks again everyone!
 

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Every piece of meat is different in many ways. Take it to your desired temp, then start poking it. If you have some tougher spots, leave it in for another half hour or so then check it again, might have to do it longer. Sounds like you need to practice some more like we are still doing, Ha Ha

Others may have additional comments also. Glad your event was a success.
 
^^^^ What 801driver said :)
 
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