I asked on the other thread and Dirty Sailor might have me sold on the STX Turboforce II. It seems to have more power than the #12 and has a foot pedal and cheaper. The main problems seems to be from people using the dishwasher on the parts for bad reviews.
I have the #12 Big Bite and love it. Yes it is a heavy beast, but no issues with it so far. I upgraded from the #12 Kitchener so I had extra plates and other accessories in #12 size. I got lucky and ended up snagging one for about $329 on Amazon, sold by Amazon. It was the lowest price I had ever seen and with Prime shipping was free too.
Hey, I just checked my history at Amazon and they have the LEM #12 Big Bite for $349 right now. I have not priced them lately but that used to be a good price. The #8 is $299.