Bacon Seeds....

[indaswamp]

Got the call this morning....2 more little hogs inda trap. WOOOHOOOO!!! More sausage on deck! Might make some wild hog boudin this go around.

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• indaswamp
• May 25, 2017

 

[crimsontidetn74]

Man, just got done reading your thread other thread on wild hog sausage and then this one showed up! Can't wait to see what you do with these. Boudin is my vote though! Love me some good Louisiana boudin!

 

[chef jimmyj]

Do the states with a major Feral Hog issue have a program where groups of hunters harvest as many hogs as they can and all the meat goes to charity?
Central NJ has a major over population of Whitetail Deer. Lots of million dollar properties spending thousands of dollars on landscaping and the deer just love the high end buffet. The state sponsors a yearly hunt but the same folks that want the deer gone, don't want hunting on their property. So the permits are limjted and the hunting areas are restricted to small tracts. The deer are smart! The movement of the hunters and shooting starts and the deer wait it out munching shrubs in the front yard of the area mansions.[emoji]128514[/emoji]The whole deal is hilarious...JJ

 

[indaswamp]

Do the states with a major Feral Hog issue have a program where groups of hunters harvest as many hogs as they can and all the meat goes to charity?
Central NJ has a major over population of Whitetail Deer. Lots of million dollar properties spending thousands of dollars on landscaping and the deer just love the high end buffet. The state sponsors a yearly hunt but the same folks that want the deer gone, don't want hunting on their property. So the permits are limjted and the hunting areas are restricted to small tracts. The deer are smart! The movement of the hunters and shooting starts and the deer wait it out munching shrubs in the front yard of the area mansions.[emoji]128514[/emoji]The whole deal is hilarious...JJ

No state program other than unrestricted hunting and trapping. You can shoot them at night with night vision scopes if you want. Trapping is successful but the hogs get smart quick. Traditional traps only work for so long until the pigs wise up to it. Trappers are having to go to large circle traps which can catch the entire heard all at once. Not uncommon to have 20 or so in one circle trap at one time.

I know Texas has some ranches that offer paid hunts and the ranch processes the meat to either sell or donate to charity.

 

[myownidaho]

There is an outfit called Hunters For The Hungry that has chapters in a number of states.

 

[indaswamp]

There is an outfit called Hunters For The Hungry that has chapters in a number of states.

Hunters for the Hungry is very active in Louisiana- but it is not a program run by the state, it is a volunteer organization. Thousands upon thousands of pounds of donated meat every year to feed the hungry.

 

[myownidaho]

Hunters for the Hungry is very active in Louisiana- but it is not a program run by the state, it is a volunteer organization. Thousands upon thousands of pounds of donated meat every year to feed the hungry.

One that I support 100%. That's the way it's supposed to be done.

 

[indaswamp]

 
Man, just got done reading your thread other thread on wild hog sausage and then this one showed up! Can't wait to see what you do with these. Boudin is my vote though! Love me some good Louisiana boudin!

I have a KILLER authentic boudin recipe that has been in the family for 3 generations. I'll post a thread when I make it...I am leaning in the direction of boudin...after I finish the goose sausage and smoke the wild turkey breast though. I got the pigs packed on ice aging a bit....

 

[indaswamp]

Just got the call....2 more little pigs inda trap! WOOOHOOOO!!!!!

Since it is a gully washer of a rain right now, we will wait until the morning to go pick them up and butcher them.

 

[indaswamp]

I was looking over Hank shaw's site and I think I'm going to make an Easter style smoke cooked ham with 2 of the back legs off one of the little hogs using his recipe. This will be perfect to take to the family fishing trip/beast feast! I will post a thread from start to finish once I select the cuts I like off the hog.

 

[indaswamp]

I have 2 Legs set aside to cure into Easter Sugar hams. I will post pics. as I go. Gotta wait for a break in the rain to go get them out of the ice chest in the back of my truck..LOL! Calling for rain all week here! 4" so far...

 

[Bearcarver]

Do the states with a major Feral Hog issue have a program where groups of hunters harvest as many hogs as they can and all the meat goes to charity?
Central NJ has a major over population of Whitetail Deer. Lots of million dollar properties spending thousands of dollars on landscaping and the deer just love the high end buffet. The state sponsors a yearly hunt but the same folks that want the deer gone, don't want hunting on their property. So the permits are limjted and the hunting areas are restricted to small tracts. The deer are smart! The movement of the hunters and shooting starts and the deer wait it out munching shrubs in the front yard of the area mansions.[emoji]128514[/emoji]The whole deal is hilarious...JJ

Hmmm, When I used to hunt, the Pennsy Woods were full of Jersey Hunters.

And all the Jersey Drs & Lawyers were buying up Pennsy property & posting it so Pennsy hunters couldn't hunt in their own state, except for the millions of acres of good old PA State Game Lands.

Hey Inda,

I'll bet those Baby Hogs will be mighty Tender!!

Bear

 

[indaswamp]

 

Do the states with a major Feral Hog issue have a program where groups of hunters harvest as many hogs as they can and all the meat goes to charity?
Central NJ has a major over population of Whitetail Deer. Lots of million dollar properties spending thousands of dollars on landscaping and the deer just love the high end buffet. The state sponsors a yearly hunt but the same folks that want the deer gone, don't want hunting on their property. So the permits are limjted and the hunting areas are restricted to small tracts. The deer are smart! The movement of the hunters and shooting starts and the deer wait it out munching shrubs in the front yard of the area mansions.[emoji]128514[/emoji]The whole deal is hilarious...JJ

Hmmm, When I used to hunt, the Pennsy Woods were full of Jersey Hunters.

And all the Jersey Drs & Lawyers were buying up Pennsy property & posting it so Pennsy hunters couldn't hunt in their own state, except for the millions of acres of good old PA State Game Lands.

Hey Inda,

I'll bet those Baby Hogs will be mighty Tender!!

Bear

Yes indeed!!

 

[myownidaho]

Looking forward to you reviews of Hanks ham recipe. I've never been steered wrong by one of his game recipes.

 

[indaswamp]

Looking forward to you reviews of Hanks ham recipe. I've never been steered wrong by one of his game recipes.

Me either...until I made the goose mortadella. If you calculate 2% salt for 4lbs. of meat is roughly 36g. His recipe calls for 40g of salt. He also uses 2 tsps. of cure #1 for 4 lbs. of meat. You really only need about 4.5 grams, or a little less than a tsp. of cure.

I used the 40g of salt and 1 tsp. of cure. and it was a touch too salty for me. I recommend using 30~35g salt with 1 tsp. of cure and the salt should be about right.

I'll do a play by play on the hams....

 

[myownidaho]

Me either...until I made the goose mortadella. If you calculate 2% salt for 4lbs. of meat is roughly 36g. His recipe calls for 40g of salt. He also uses 2 tsps. of cure #1 for 4 lbs. of meat. You really only need about 4.5 grams, or a little less than a tsp. of cure.

I used the 40g of salt and 1 tsp. of cure. and it was a touch too salty for me. I recommend using 30~35g salt with 1 tsp. of cure and the salt should be about right.

I'll do a play by play on the hams....

I do need to correct my previous comment. I agree that the one area where SMF corrected me on the recipes, is the amount of cure. He goes overboard on the safety factor and uses too much. I've since changed the recipes I use to represent 1.1gm of cure per pound. As for the regular salt percentage, I chalk that up to personal preference. For me, they've been pretty accurate from the flavor standpoint. I'm also the type of cook that doesn't put salt and pepper on the table.

Cure on!

Jim

 

[indaswamp]

For me, they've been pretty accurate from the flavor standpoint. I'm also the type of cook that doesn't put salt and pepper on the table.

Cure on!

Jim

Yes, the flavor profile of the recipes I have done is good. But with the Mortadella, I knew looking at it that I would not enjoy that much nutmeg so I adjusted that down. The aromatic spice profile I used was for traditional Mortadella Lyoner.

 

[tallbm]

Do the states with a major Feral Hog issue have a program where groups of hunters harvest as many hogs as they can and all the meat goes to charity?

I'm going to go on a bit of a rant here and answer some of your question for the state of TX so please bare with me :D

In TX it is my understanding that feral hogs must be inspected before and after slaughter if the meat is to be sold or donated because it is classified as "amenable" meat being that it is pork and is thereby subject to the full FMIA policies :(

The way the regulations stand it makes it difficult to get the meat into people's mouths through sale or donation.  You are basically left with personal consumption or personal gifting.

I believe that if some work was done to make it easier to deal with the inspection process specifically for feral hogs then both the poor as well as the landowners would greatly benefit!

It is estimated by https://www.texasagriculture.gov/GrantsServices/TradeandBusinessDevelopment/FeralHogGrantProgram that there are 2.6 million feral hogs in TX.  They cause an estimated $52 million in agricultural damage and an additional $7 million to landowners to repair damage or try and deal with the problem.

CBS news reported in Feb of 2017 that the Texas Ag Commissioner approved the use of a pesticide that targets feral hogs (http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2017/02/20/texas-ag-commissioner-approves-pesticide-targeting-wild-pigs/).

I personally don't like the idea of gambling on whether or not I am about to eat a poisoned feral hog I trapped or hunted :(

Finally, according to http://www.thelonghornalliance.com/default.asp?contentID= 579 there were 4-6 million WILD Longhorn Cattle in Texas by 1860.  Those cattle surely were rounded up and drove for profit or else we wouldn't have the so much of the western cowboy and cattle culture that is so famous to this day.

Imagine converting 2.6 million wild hogs from a nuisance into a financial gain like wild Texas cattle were back in the day!  Rather than spend money to poison the animal I wish more effort would be taken to find a way (if possible) to make it easier for landowners to "slaughter" and have the meat inspected so they can profit off the animal or at least donate it.  I don't have the details but I know a guy who harvests Exotic game for sale to restaurants and other places and he had to comply with a number of procedures but could get it done.  It's part of the business that employs him!

It seems to me that feral hogs may be able to have their rules work similarly to exotic game rather than being lumped in with all farm raised "pork" and being considered an amenable meat that is subject to the full blown FMIA inspection policies. 

It just seems like there is a wasted opportunity here.

Anyhow, that's the end of my feral hog rant.  I hope it didn't bore anyone to death and didn't come off too annoying on the topic lol :)

 

[indaswamp]

no problem on the rant...

I think the reason why such stringent regulations are in place for feral hogs is due to Trichinella round worms which can lead to Trichinosis in humans. I do agree that it seems like a waste of a good resource.

 

[tallbm]

 
no problem on the rant...

I think the reason why such stringent regulations are in place for feral hogs is due to Trichinella round worms which can lead to Trichinosis in humans. I do agree that it seems like a waste of a good resource.

I think you are correct.

I could still see that feral hogs had to be frozen properly to kill the parasite, or lets say it can only be sold in a variety forms with special preparation like high temp cooked spam :P

I'm sure something more sensible could be thought up but it's not exactly my field of expertise so I just have to assume the right things are being done :(