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Discussion in 'Slicers, Grinders, Tools, Equipment' started by ptburnett68, Jan 27, 2011.

  1. ptburnett68

    ptburnett68 Newbie

    I got the AMNS and have used it twice in my MES 40 for extra smoke on long cooking times. I please it under the water pan beside the chip box on the two bars. It seems to be covered from falling liquid (maybe not). The first time one side burned fine but the other side went out. The second time both ends went out. What should I do. Please help?
  2. les3176

    les3176 Master of the Pit

    try putting the dust in the microwave for 90 sec.then stir and back in for another 90 sec. Then when you lite it make sure you have a nice cherry ash going.it should kinda look like a burning cigar. It could be your dust has a little moisture in it is all.the micro should help dry it out for ya.
  3. fpnmf

    fpnmf Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    Is your top vent open??

    I open up the chip feeder some too.

    It needs some air.

     Have a great day!

  4. rdknb

    rdknb Master of the Pit OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    As stated above it does need air to burn.  I would love to see how you loaded it etc.  Next time take pics as you go and it could be something very easy to fix, but needs to be seen. When I load mine I tap it down some to compact it. then when I light it I watch it for a few to make sure it stays lit.
  5. tjohnson

    tjohnson Smoking Guru Staff Member Moderator Insider OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    My MES 40 is "Starved For Air" and I do a couple things to improve airflow.

    I think what's happening, is your AMNS is not getting adequate air or you don't have a good "Cherry" burning in the sawdust.  I even blow on the embers to make sure it has a good cherry burning.

    Propane and Charcoal Smokers have huge intake vents, but for some reason, Manufacturers of Electric Smokers do not have large intake vents.

    Try This....

    Light your AMNS with a torch or lighter for about 30 seconds

    Leave it on top your MES for about 10 minutes, to make sure it''s burning good.

    Open the top vent all the way

    Remove the chip loader

    Pull out your chip pan out about 1 1/2"

    Place your AMNS on the bars or on the bottom rack.

    Here's a couple pics of my 40" MES with the heat at 275° when I did an airflow test 

    Chip Loader & Chip Pan in all the way.

    Notice the paper is not moving


    Chip Loader pulled out 1/2 way and Chip Pan Pulled Out 1 1/2"

    Notice paper is at about a 45° Angle = Huge Diff in Air Flow!


    This pic is of a 2 1/4" hole I drilled in the end of the housing for the chip pan

    I figured this was a little safer than leaving the chip pan pulled out


    Try this test for yourself and you'll be surprised at the difference it makes the airflow inside your MES

    You can always PM me or even call me @ (952)412-0484 if you're having issues

  6. bmudd14474

    bmudd14474 Legendary Pitmaster Staff Member Administrator Group Lead OTBS Member ★ Lifetime Premier ★

    do you have water in the water pan?
  7. SmokinAl

    SmokinAl SMF Hall of Fame Pitmaster Staff Member Moderator OTBS Member ★ Lifetime Premier ★

    I have a MES 40 as well, and if I nuke the dust first and make sure there is a good cherry started it burns fine even with the chip loader in. I prefer to put my AMNS in the water pan (no water) with an aluminum pan above it with water in it.
  8. tjohnson

    tjohnson Smoking Guru Staff Member Moderator Insider OTBS Member SMF Premier Member


    How's the new prototype working?

  9. rbranstner

    rbranstner Smoking Guru OTBS Member

    I have had the same issue and I believe that it was moisture in my dust. Ever since I was given the trick of putting it in the microwave mine stays going. 
  10. ptburnett68

    ptburnett68 Newbie

    Wow thanks for all the replies. I will try the whole microwave thing first and the then the mods that your offered TJohnson if it doesn't help. I do have water in my pan bmudd! Vent is fully open and I will take pictures next time! Thanks again!
  11. SmokinAl

    SmokinAl SMF Hall of Fame Pitmaster Staff Member Moderator OTBS Member ★ Lifetime Premier ★

    Excellent! It burns right from the start all the way thru at the same pace. Never have any unburnt dust & no warping. AMAZING!!   [​IMG]

    Thanks Todd.