ok everyone always post their successes on here well I tried something new and failed so I'm post this in hopes that someone else won't make the same mistake I made. I used my new vortex in the center under the pizza pan. I saw another person did this but they had a pizza stone, I'm guessing that is what are the difference since it better insulates than my over pizza pan I used. Anyways pizza look amazing and other than the burn bottom it tasted great! Next try I will use the vortex but put the charcoals around the outside perimeter of the grill instead of inside the vortex. Oh well live and learn i already bought the stuff to do this again to redeem myself cause they really did taste great even with burn bottom.