Let this be a lesson, the quality of meat makes a HUGE difference. I normally get my ribs at the local butcher but unfortunately he was out this past Friday when I went shopping. Instead I went to a local grocery and bought some that were cryovaced. Boy was that a mistake, those ribs totally sucked. I used the same rub, same method, same fuel and I have to admit these had to be as bad a rib as I ever made. I mean they were edible but they surely were nothing to be proud of. Never, never will I buy anything but fresh ribs ever again OK, rant over.