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Trying brisket again...need advice

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I just pulled out of the freezer a 4.3 lb brisket that I got from Trader Joe’s back in August of last year. Yes, I’m just getting around to cooking it, mostly cause I forgot about it. But I figured it would be a good Memorial Day cook. Anyhow, despite my family loving the last two I’ve made, I’ve not been completely happy with the two I’ve done prior that were exactly like this piece. It’s to the point where I’m starting to question if I’m really even that big of a brisket fan!

I’m going to post a series of questions/problems I’ve had with my previous cooks and I was wondering if you could help me get this done better?

First thing’s first...this is just a Point piece based on the pics, correct? I’ve always assumed it was since it was more rounded like a roast, but Trader Joe’s doesn’t label as “point”. They just label it as brisket. But considering they had other pieces that were thinner and flat, I assumed they were selling the flat and point separate and this is a point piece? I only ask because in some vids I’ve watched on YouTube of people cooking just points, theirs look a little flatter than this. So this is leading to my confusion about what cut this is.

Next, let’s talk about time/temp. If I remember correctly last two I did at 275°. I did not wrap at all as I wanted a nice bark. This time I have a roll of butcher paper on hand I want to try using. I’ve grossly mis-timed my last two cooks in which I didn’t even have time to give the meat a rest cause I was so far behind on dinner. Is 275° still a good temp to run at? What kind of timing can I expect for this 4.3 lb piece of meat? I cook on a Kamado Joe btw.

cooking on a KJ leads me to my next question. Spritzing. Yes or no? I have always had trouble getting good bark to form using the KJ in general I think because it’s already such a moist cooking environment. I tried spritzing meat during one cook and I felt like it did nothing. My bark was goopy and the meat looked plenty moist so I wasn’t really sure if I was helping or hurting by spritzing. So is this a yay or nay for a Kamado?

next I want to talk about resting. Sounds like from feedback I’ve gotten on here on my past cooks, I’m doing a great disservice by not letting the brisket rest. This is my fault for underestimating how long the cook will take. I’d like to be able to do a proper rest this time so that’s why I asked about approximate timing. I seem to get confused about resting vs holding meat. I see some guys say they “rest” their meat in a cooler with towels...but isn’t that just really holding meat to be served later if it happens to get done too early? I’ve seen others say a proper rest is on the counter at room temp and it can be anywhere from 1-2 hours. I see a lot of people wait until the meat had cooled to around 150° before they’ll slice it. Can anyone provide clarification about what the proper procedure is? Thanks for all your assistance on this upcoming cook.
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Wasn't that long ago I was asking too , but

Looks like a cross cut of the point end .
I use a Kettle , cook temp is around 260 - 275 . Where ever it wants to settle in at .
I've started to finish in the oven . Comes out fantastic .

I do use the pink paper . I wrap around 170 ish .

My opinion , watch that resting in the cooler . Make sure you let it start to cool
before you wrap it up . I overcooked one like that .

Last one I did , I used the oven to finish , and rested on the counter for 1 1/2 hours . Best one yet .
Good luck .
 
The point is going to be more forgiving than the flat or a whole in my opinion. Cooking at 275F is fine with a finish around 203F meat temp. You can start checking for probe tender around 195F. If you want to spritz use a simple 1 cup vinegar to 1/4 cup Franks. Will not make meat spicy. What rub are you using? That certainly contributes to the bark. What exactly about your prior briskets did you not like?
 
The point is going to be more forgiving than the flat or a whole in my opinion. Cooking at 275F is fine with a finish around 203F meat temp. You can start checking for probe tender around 195F. If you want to spritz use a simple 1 cup vinegar to 1/4 cup Franks. Will not make meat spicy. What rub are you using? That certainly contributes to the bark. What exactly about your prior briskets did you not like?
I have used a few different rubs on prior brisket point cooks. Kroger Private Selection 5 salt/5 pepper blend. Oakridge Black Ops. Twisted Q.

When it comes to spritzing, since the Kamado is so moist, The bark often doesn’t seem to form until near the end as is. So putting additional liquid on top of the rub seems counterproductive to me. Often times the bark isn’t even where I like it by the time it’s time to wrap.

Maybe I’m just expecting something different, but I just always feel like I’m eating a Smokey roast. So many guys seem to have this orgasm over the taste of brisket and I just don’t get that same sensation. It’s just like a good roast in my opinion, so that’s why I’m not sure if it’s just my personal tastes or I just suck at making brisket. Mine never seems to be glistening juicy either. But maybe that’s cause I’m not giving it a good rest. I also alway seem to get parts that are butter tender, but some sections that are stiffer. I can’t seem to get consistency through the whole piece of meat. And I’m always afraid the parts that are probing tender early will then overcook by the time the less tender parts get to where I want it
 
All I have to say is I wish we could just buy a point around here!
I’d buy them all the time! It’s either a full packer or a flat. I wonder what they do with all those points they trim off, probably grind them up for hot dogs, or corned beef points.
Al
 
All I have to say is I wish we could just buy a point around here!
I’d buy them all the time! It’s either a full packer or a flat. I wonder what they do with all those points they trim off, probably grind them up for hot dogs, or corned beef points.
Al
Always wondered the same thing Al, where’s all the damn points going? Sounds like a business idea to me - would be a helluva slot more money made selling the points at a premium to bbq nuts like us than grinding them up and selling them for whatever they’re selling it for. Would be great to buy the point once in a while and just do burnt ends.
 
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