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Strong recommendation: USE A DIMMER plug for electric cold smoker attachment!

Discussion in 'Info and Practices' started by webpoppy8, Oct 7, 2017.

  1. SonnyE

    SonnyE Master of the Pit OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    I use natural convection. Heat rises.
    A mod box, AMNPS, 96" of dryer aluminum duct tubing, and a stack on my MES.

    If I was to choose a control device, I'd opt for Dave's SCR drive.
     
  2. nanuk

    nanuk Smoking Fanatic ★ Lifetime Premier ★


    Hah... I took Dave's recommendation, and got the 10K watt one, for only a coupla $ more!

    Now, I need to wire it up and heat sink it in a box of some sort.
     
  3. AzBTO

    AzBTO Newbie

    Has anybody tried something like this for the cold smoker? Rated at 6 amps, 720 watts. You might be able to mount an electrical box over the current off / on switch and replace that switch with this? Maybe a little hammered black paint to make it build in? Thoughts?
     

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  4. AzBTO

    AzBTO Newbie

    sorry, duplicate I guess :(
     
  5. daveomak

    daveomak Epic Pitmaster OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    This unit works very well... $16 Amazon.. I have and use 2 of them.. I control 1500 watt elements...

    Yeeco AC 110V 4000W SCR Voltage Regulator Speed Control Driver Dimming Dimmer Thermostat Governing Temperature Governor Fan Motor Controller


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  6. AzBTO

    AzBTO Newbie

    I saw that but I was hoping to find something as small as possible (as well as being safe) and mount it permanently some how. Any pics on how you have it mounted?
     
  7. daveomak

    daveomak Epic Pitmaster OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    Small ??? 2 1/4 x 4 x 1 1/4"....
    For mounting, I cut a 12 ga appliance extension cord, hooked it up about 2' from the male plug...

    Size:AC110V 4000W
    Parameters:
    Operating voltage: AC 110V
    Max Power: 4000W (Connected resistive load)
    Voltage Regulation: AC 0V - 110V Adjustable
    Size: (shell) length 91x wide 59MMx high 34MM
    Usage:
    This product is Connected to 110V AC input, The output is connected to the electric wire or electrical appliances,
    Rotary potentiometer rotating rod,
    Can play speed, pressure, temperature control effect
    Application:
    This product uses the new two-way High Power SCR,
    Because the design of the current max up to 20 A
    A good solution to cool down the situation in the electric wire
    Resistance is too small to cause over-flow problem;
    Can easily adjust the output voltage 0-110V
    Such as:Furnace,Hot water heater tune,Lamp dimming,Small motor speed,Electric iron,thermostat and so on.
    So as to achieve dimming, thermostats, adjusting the voltage effect.
    Can be used for electric power appliances use less than 4000W
    Inductively or capacitive load power should be reduced, the regulator is equipped with two-way high-power thyristor, potentiometers are with nuts and thick oversized radiator with aluminum shell
    Note:
    Note that the load can not exceed the maximum power, otherwise it will burn modules and appliances;
    Try using a resistive load;
    Inductive, capacitive load power to stay for more than half margin.
    packing including:
    1x AC 110V 4000W High Power SCR electronic regulator
     
  8. nanuk

    nanuk Smoking Fanatic ★ Lifetime Premier ★

    I bought the one DaveO recommended, but for a couple extra dollars, got the 10K watt unit.
     
  9. daveomak

    daveomak Epic Pitmaster OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    IMO, the 4,000 watt unit has a much finer control for you temp adjustments... You may need the fine adjustment...
     
  10. nanuk

    nanuk Smoking Fanatic ★ Lifetime Premier ★

    Dave, I'll keep that in mind, as I never considered that

    they are inexpensive, even up here that I could get another one, and pay closer attention to the wattage.

    My long term goal is to build a wooden/metal smokehouse using an oven element, and that is why I thought I'd eventually need the 10K unit.
     
  11. paul nj shore

    paul nj shore Fire Starter SMF Premier Member

    Dave I bought that unit YEECO my question is can I just wire it between the smoker and the receptacle
    using a extension chord and turning the thermostat to the highest setting ? I have a smoking it #4

    TIA Paul
     
  12. daveomak

    daveomak Epic Pitmaster OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    If you have an analog smoker you can... If it has electronics inside, probably not... You need full 110 for the electronics...
    You can install it on the element.. unplug it, wire between the element and incoming wire...
    On my MES30, I installed the dimmer on the element...
    Wire coming in to the element goes up to the YEECO... From the YEECO down to the element... That's it...
    Then, you can turn the heat setting up to the "high limit" you set... Then adjust the YEECO to a % and wait for the temp to stabilize... adjust as necessary until you have your temp.... The element never turns off... No ups and downs of temperature... All of the original electronics function normal.... Unfortunately, I did the dimmer BEFORE SCR's were readily available.. but it works the same, only a bit pricier back in the day.. I think I got the dimmer for $70 on ebay... $55 is a lot of beer... LOL...
    24e292c6_installedback.jpg
     
  13. daveomak

    daveomak Epic Pitmaster OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    If you have an analog smoker you can... If it has electronics inside, probably not... You need full 110 for the electronics...
    You can install it on the element.. unplug it, wire between the element and incoming wire...
    On my MES30, I installed the dimmer on the element...

    I have the upper limit set to 101 F.... and the smoker running at 67 F.... I have bacon in there now and do NOT want the smoker to get above 100 ish... Preferably never get above 70 F for cold smoked bacon...
    DIMMER operation 004.JPG .... DIMMER operation 001.JPG
     
  14. paul nj shore

    paul nj shore Fire Starter SMF Premier Member

    Thanks Dave , I do have the Analog :)