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Question regarding powdered milk/nfdm and cultured buttermilk

Discussion in 'Sausage' started by jaxon2, Dec 6, 2018 at 1:18 PM.

  1. jaxon2

    jaxon2 Newbie

    Few Beginner questions

    I was wondering if there is a difference between powdered milk and NFDM? Ive seen them listed in different Summer sausage recipes some calling for powdered milk others nfdm and was wondering if they are the same thing or accomplish the same thing?

    I've also seen cultured buttermilk listed. I've seen this gives sausage a tangy taste. Does this work as a substitute for ECA?

    Thanks
     
  2. nepas

    nepas Smoking Guru Staff Member Moderator Group Lead OTBS Member ★ Lifetime Premier ★

    NFPDM is the same as powdered dry. Buttermilk powder will give a slight tang. You can get buttermilk powder in the stores in the baking section. Its called Sako Buttermilk Powder.

    You can use good quality liquid Buttermilk also, just skip adding any water.
     
  3. What is the recommended amount of dry sako buttermilk to use per pound of meat?
     
  4. nepas

    nepas Smoking Guru Staff Member Moderator Group Lead OTBS Member ★ Lifetime Premier ★

    I go by the amount of product i make.
    Say your making 5lbs. I use 1/2 to 3/4 cup.

    Careful if you add too much the mix can get dry and crumbly. This is where some make a mistake and add more water which will make your meat excrete the water and fill your casings and the end results end up in the trash can.
     
  5. HalfSmoked

    HalfSmoked Master of the Pit Group Lead SMF Premier Member

    Interesting info there Rick just opposite of what you might think.

    Warren
     
  6. Thanks.

    I have used sako several times but was never sure what the recommended amount was. Haven’t messed up yet thankfully.
     
  7. nepas

    nepas Smoking Guru Staff Member Moderator Group Lead OTBS Member ★ Lifetime Premier ★

    Try the liquid buttermilk, whole nuther taste.

    I found that when i use the liquid BM, mix it it and fridge it for few hours. Dont worry if when first mixing the meat has a white tint, you will be fine.
     
  8. nepas

    nepas Smoking Guru Staff Member Moderator Group Lead OTBS Member ★ Lifetime Premier ★

    I have a chart some where on additives per lbs of meat. Let me find it.
     
  9. jaxon2

    jaxon2 Newbie

    Thanks everyone! I'd be interested in the amount of eca per pound of meat
     
  10. That would be a great thing to have.

    Thanks
     
  11. nepas

    nepas Smoking Guru Staff Member Moderator Group Lead OTBS Member ★ Lifetime Premier ★

    1 level tsp per pound of meat
     
  12. 1/2 - 3/4 cup nfdm per 5lbs is what I use for everything...brats summer sticks.