Discussion in 'UK Smokers' started by molove, Aug 5, 2016.

  1. molove

    molove Smoke Blower

    I'm thinking about getting a Uuni 2S pizza oven which runs on hardwood pellets. From what I can tell it gets through them at quite a rate, so I'm trying to source bags of 10kg or more.

    I know some of you use GMG Grills and A-maze-n smokers so I was wondering where you guys get your wood pellets from?

    I'm in SE London so if you know of any suppliers close to me, all the better.


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  2. Lakeland online sell the Uuni pellets for ~£20 per 10 kg. other than that I can't help you although I believe Smokewood shack @smokewood will be selling pellets soon although I'm not sure what quantities in.
  3. wade

    wade Master of the Pit OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    Hi Piers

    I have been buying mine in bulk from The American BBQ Company. They work out at about from about £1.30 per kilo for GMG brand  "Premium Gold Blend" (red oak, hickory, and maple), "Fruitwood Blend" (cherry, beech, and pecan) and "Texas Blend" (black oak, hickory, elm, and mesquite) up to about £1.85 per kilo for FEC Hickory (which is what I use). 

    I have looked at the Lakeland Online prices and they are currently £18.49 for 10 Kg - which works out at £1.85 per Kg. Not a bad price for a relatively small quantity. It only seems to come in Oak though.
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  4. smokin monkey

    smokin monkey Master of the Pit Group Lead OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    Hi Piers, I read a thread regarding Wood Pellets.

    This is the definition from UUNI,

    Wood pellets are a compact and convenient energy source. They're also easy to come by when you know what to look for.

    So what am I looking for?

    You often hear the phrase 'food-safe wood pellet' used when people are looking for pellets to be used with their pellet barbecues. This, however, can be a little misleading as there isn't a pellet standard that defines what's food-safe and what's not. Pellet barbecues often require pellets made solely out of deciduous trees. This is because they also utilise the smoke as well as the heat from the pellet. Using these pellets isn't necessary with Uuni, though there's nothing wrong with them.

    With Uuni, you can use pellets that are meant for heating so as long as they're of good quality. In Europe this is easy; there's a pellet standard called ENPlus A1 that defines the source wood quality, manufacturing methods and moisture levels. Those pellets are great as they have low relative moisture content, they only ever use virgin stem tree (i.e. no construction waste), there's no bark and they only use natural lubricants in the die which extrudes the pellet. If you buy and use those, you're on to a winner. Those are what the Uuni Team uses."

    As you are not trying to flavour the food as in Low & Slow, these seem to be the best buy. I seen one of the big Plumbing Suppliers quoted as being the best for them.

    Plumb Centre sell 10kg bags for £5.04!!!
  5. molove

    molove Smoke Blower

    Thanks for the info chaps.

    I did manage to find on the Uuni site that any wood pellets would do as long as they were certificated to EN Plus-A1, they also mentioned who also sell "Lil Devils" bbq pellets which may or may not be of interest to you.

    For 3 bags they work out at about £1.20/kilo delivered, getting cheaper the more you order
  6. molove

    molove Smoke Blower

    Yes I found that article too after posting here.

    Thanks for the heads up about the Plumb Centre, I've got a couple of branches nearby, and if you order them online and collect them instore they are £4.02 for 10kg - result! [​IMG]
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  7. wade

    wade Master of the Pit OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    The Liverpoolwoodpellets all seem to be unspecified mixed hardwoods. They will be fine for heat but the flavour is likely to vary. This probably isn't an issue though with Pizza.
  8. smokewood

    smokewood Smoking Fanatic Group Lead

    The problem with biomass, or pellets that you use for heating your central heating is that you do not know what goes into them. and the manufacturers do not have to state this on the label. So basically it could be any of the following wood:

     Stem wood

    Chemically untreated by-products and residues from the wood processing industry

    Whole trees without roots

    Logging residues

    Chemically untreated byproducts and residues from the wood processing industry

    Forest, plantation and other virgin wood

    Chemically untreated used wood 

    These guidelines can be found here

    Depending on where in the world your pellets are made will generally dictate what is in your pellet. but it will mainly be softwoods.

    With Food grade pellets Smokin Monkey is right, there is no standard as such, however there are 2 main ways that BBQ Pellets are made, from either whole trees or leftover residuals from other manufacturing processes, such as flooring or furniture manufacturing.

    When BBQ pellets are made with whole logs, you get a small percentage of bark in the final product. This adds to the flavour complexity of the smoke coming from the pellets. It is more reminiscent of the original BBQ when people cooked using chunks of wood. 

    The other method of making pellets are not made from whole trees, but rather from the residuals of kiln dried sawdust. This could be cherry from a cabinet maker or oak from a flooring manufacturer. They make a great pellet, as they burn well, but the smoke from this residual sawdust does not possess the same flavour consumers get from a whole log pellet, another issue I believe with using kiln dried sawdust is that you are not totally guaranteed exact quality if using different suppliers for your dust.

    Flavoured pellets will have 30-40% of the desire wood and then 60-70% of either Oak or alder as a base wood, (companies do not like to use the word filler, but that is what they are) So your Hickory Flavour will have 40% Hickory & Oak as a filler. There 3 reasons for this (or so I am told):

    1) Many species of trees produce too strong a taste for a lot of people, for example, mesquite.

    2) All wood burns at various heat output levels. So rather than have to adjust the grill for each species the user wants a consistent heat output pellet. 

    3) Some woods are very expensive because of availability, for example, Apple or other fruitwoods. Therefore a 100% pellet using apple and the price could be approximately double therefore putting it out of the range of many customers.

    Other flavoured pellets use a base wood (depending where the pellets are manufactured) and then add flavoured oils into the mixing process. 

    Without going into pellet manufacturing 101 It is not as simple as throwing logs in at one end of a machine and pellets come out of the other end as there isn’t one machine that does it all. Depending if you are using logs or kiln dried dust the process is roughly as follows:

    You do not necessarily need to know all the above information, but I feel you should be aware of the different types of pellets out there and also know what you are paying for.
  9. smokin monkey

    smokin monkey Master of the Pit Group Lead OTBS Member SMF Premier Member

    Thanks for the insight James.

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