In 67 years I have never seen a year like this where I live.

[Colin1230]

We are supposed to get rain then snow Friday and Saturday. Monday, snow. It's been a very mild winter so far.

 

[BB-que]

By this time of the year we would have 3-6 feet of snow by now. Last year my son was out riding our snow machine all over the place. The weather has been just crazy. Call it gobal warming or what ever term you like but in 67 years I have never seen a winter like this. I have seen no snow till Christmas but it was also 30-40 below. This year most days I can walk out side with just a hoody on and be warm. Not great for spring run off if we don't get some snow as we country people have wells that need the water.
The last two days have been below freezing but not by much. Here is a picture of the water falls in my back yard. (not really, 1800 feet away and wish I owned it LOL)
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We don’t get snow in Chicago anymore until Feb and March. This isn’t a one year phenomenon but this discussion is like discussing politics . The climate is clearly changing over the past decade and it kinda sucks if you like white Xmas in the Midwest! The cause of it is much more at debate, but the climate changing relatively rapidly is not a debate, and when we get some snow in mid Jan and Feb that doesn’t change the obvious. Maybe we’ll move to Saskatchewan for December, still beautiful up there this time of year!

 

[Retired Spook]

We don’t get snow in Chicago anymore until Feb and March. This isn’t a one year phenomenon but this discussion is like discussing politics . The climate is clearly changing over the past decade and it kinda sucks if you like white Xmas in the Midwest! The cause of it is much more at debate, but the climate changing relatively rapidly is not a debate, and when we get some snow in mid Jan and Feb that doesn’t change the obvious. Maybe we’ll move to Saskatchewan for December, still beautiful up there this time of year!

Very well said!

 

[Smokin Okie]

We don’t get snow in Chicago anymore until Feb and March. This isn’t a one year phenomenon but this discussion is like discussing politics . The climate is clearly changing over the past decade and it kinda sucks if you like white Xmas in the Midwest! The cause of it is much more at debate, but the climate changing relatively rapidly is not a debate, and when we get some snow in mid Jan and Feb that doesn’t change the obvious. Maybe we’ll move to Saskatchewan for December, still beautiful up there this time of year!

We had a little thing in western Oklahoma, the Texas Panhandle, and SW Kansas for almost the entire decade of the 1930's. It was called the Dust Bowl. Extreme drought and heat. High temp records were set that still hold to today.

It went on for years, people had become convinced the climate had permanently changed. And they moved to California and other places.

 

[KBFlyer]

Well the last week the temps are back to our normal winter temps. Two days ago we had about an inch of snow. Just enough to piss you off lol
Some snow forcasted for Saturday, about 2-4 inches they say. Hopefully enough to cover the septic field so it don't freeze.
Farmer's Almanac say's no big snow amounts till March. So I guess March will be roaring in like a lion as they say.

 

[BB-que]

We had a little thing in western Oklahoma, the Texas Panhandle, and SW Kansas for almost the entire decade of the 1930's. It was called the Dust Bowl. Extreme drought and heat. High temp records were set that still hold to today.

It went on for years, people had become convinced the climate had permanently changed. And they moved to California and other places.

Yeah I mean to think that something as complicated as climate/Mother Nature is either man made or purely natural seems a little ignorant, almost certainly it’s both. Billions of years of the earth and we think the last 100 are all that matters, cause to us it is! Mother Nature has ended all life forms for all that time (which my brain can’t possibly grasp how long that is and all the life forms they have ended) and she’ll end us too, my .02 is likely through climate(nature) but I won’t be around to find out. I’m just gonna keep drinking a lot and watching lots of football in the meant time.

 

[Smokin Okie]

Finished chopping down all the winter cover today .............. and whammoooo

 

[Chris_in_SoCal]

Billions of years of the earth and we think the last 100 are all that matters, cause to us it is!

Pretty much that and Al Gore telling everyone to give up all they have because the Earth will end if you don't! (As he jets around in his wife's plane and his houses use more electricity than a small village).

Look at the last 450 thousand years. This is CO2 and glacier melts. It happens on a regular pattern and that has not changed.

Here is the article it came from.

 

[frankusb]

Look at the last 450 thousand years. This is CO2 and glacier melts. It happens on a regular pattern and that has not changed.

The graph posted for CO2 is capped at 280ppm. CO2 has not been as low as 280ppm in any of our lifetimes. It's currently at 420ppm. That would more than double the size of that graph which shows only 100ppm range.

 

[mneeley490]

WA state had the warmest December on record. Supposed to be getting a cold snap next week, though.

 

[Retired Spook]

I think it is fair to conclude that during previous climate variations (ice ages, and desertification) many of our prehistoric ancestors - died - while a few packed up their cave-belongings and trekked south, or north, to survive. Of course, this did not happen overnight - but over time, they moved with the climate.

AND, there were WAY less of us...

If the climate changes, there isn't a thing that anyone is going to be able to do about it, except adapt, or die. Lots of folks think they are going to be able to adapt... but they won't. Also, many folks likely presume they will not live long enough to face any real hardship, so they do not care what happens.

The bottom line is: adapt, or die.

Just quit your *****in'

 

[cptnding]

I think it is fair to conclude that during previous climate variations (ice ages, and desertification) many of our prehistoric ancestors - died - while a few packed up their cave-belongings and trekked south, or north, to survive. Of course, this did not happen overnight - but over time, they moved with the climate.

AND, there were WAY less of us...

If the climate changes, there isn't a thing that anyone is going to be able to do about it, except adapt, or die. Lots of folks think they are going to be able to adapt... but they won't. Also, many folks likely presume they will not live long enough to face any real hardship, so they do not care what happens.

The bottom line is: adapt, or die.

Just quit your *****in'

Well said sir.

 

[Smokin Okie]

 

[chopsaw]

folks likely presume they will not live long enough to face any real hardship, so they do not care what happens.

That's the real shame in it all . The denial and not even considering future generations , and that there just may be something we can do about it now .

 

[BB-que]

That's the real shame in it all . The denial and not even considering future generations , and that there just may be something we can do about it now .

I think this thread says it all in a nutshell. While the climate rapidly changes like never before, as predicted, people still show that it’s gonna snow tomorrow so Climate Change isn’t real, ignoring its January already. Unfortunately it’s mostly political, but back to my Henry McKenna

 

[Chris_in_SoCal]

I think this thread says it all in a nutshell. While the climate rapidly changes like never before, as predicted, people still show that it’s gonna snow tomorrow so Climate Change isn’t real, ignoring its January already. Unfortunately it’s mostly political, but back to my Henry McKenna

It is 100% political. "They" have been running around since the 70's like chicken little crying global warming, the sky is falling until it was proven to be completely false.

Then recently some puzzle master got his buzzword player up award by coming up with the new phrase Climate Change. The climate changes, I dare you to say it doesn't. No shit Sherlock. It is the same as denying the sky is blue or the Earth is round. Haha ready for the hate from flat Earthers here.

Yes the temperatures are warming up from the tropic of Cancer to the tropic of Capricorn but this has been happening from before cars were invented along with many other things.

Trading in your F150 for a Tesla might make you feel good about yourself but you are only trading one use of energy for another and in the grand theme of things it will make absolutely no difference on how this large ball with billions of other high IQ animals doing what they do and making the best of what they have.

Now we are getting alerts not to use wood to BBQ in days that the particulates are at a "dangerous level". Every time it is on a blue sky day with a nice breeze.

 

[Retired Spook]

Blank you all - I am moving to Jasper, Alberta...

 

[Smokin Okie]

That's the real shame in it all . The denial and not even considering future generations , and that there just may be something we can do about it now .

There's other aspects of that. The stats say that older people are more skeptical and that's probably because we older folks have seen a lot of weather and we've seen a lot of dire predictions from scientists that have not matieralized. We've been around the block a time or two.

And the other aspect that I've noticed, is those people who won't make much sacrifice are ready believers. Example, someone living in NYC in high density housing who doesn't need an auto won't really have to change much about their lives.

And those who will have to make complete life changes are more skeptical. Such as thousands of workers in the oil/gas industry who will have to start all over in another field. That's easy for young people but not for older folks. They want a little more proof than a computer model, that has yet to be right.

And yes, there's a very real political aspect, in that every solution offered by the climate alarmists, involves moving our economy toward socialism. It means moving more and more power toward a small number of people in Wash DC. We did that during WW II, but only because people were assured it would end when the war was over. This climate thing will go on forever.

And there's a very real communist anti-capitalist element in the environmental movements. I've been a close observer of the anti " Fracking " protests for a lot of years, and there's always signage at those protests that are anti capitalism. Even the Sierra Club has been advocates of negative GDP growth and shrinking our economy, which means lower standards of living.

There's already a large movement to take over the energy industry. I suspect that will happen sooner rather than later. Just depends upon outcomes of elections. Along with autos, either through subsidy and/or regulation. That's two large segments of our economy that's getting direction from DC.

And they've got housing on their agenda. Even gas stoves. There's not much left to people's lives that the Federal govt is not sticking their finger into.

That makes people very skeptical. When coupled with a hard sell of alarmism.