Having Gastric Bypass and worried I won't smoke like I used to

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bigfish98

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Oct 13, 2011
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I am scheduled to have gastric bypass in October.  I have been heavy most of my life.  My ideal weight is 186 pounds, but I haven't been that weight since junior high.  I played football in highschool and while I was never lean, I was wasn't as fat as I am now and I weighed 250 pounds when I graduated.  I have been as high as 380, but I after some issues with type 2 diabetes I have settled at about 340.  I know I need to do this, and it was completely my decision (actually some of my family doesn't want me to have it), but I am worried that either I will not be able to smoke like I enjoy doing because I won't be able to eat as much, or I will keep smoking and gain all my weight back.   Has anyone else had this done?  What are your experiences?  Thanks in advance for any advice.

Bigfish
 
Bigfish, morning.... My buddy had part of his stomach and esophagus removed (cancer).... stomach is about the size of a golf ball..... Over the years I guess it has stretched or something because he eats like horse and he is thin.... not skin and bones but 6' 1" and 165....  You probably will have to eat 5-6 times a day, small portions to get the proper amount of nutrition....   

Eating habits will change for sure... not having the surgery may not be the right choice from your description....  Best wishes on the surgery....  Dave
 
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I would not do it...Never...You have 2 young boys to think about so why take the risk of something going wrong...Man up and loose the weight on your own ..You can do it just have to put your mind to it. I lost 45lbs last year and have kept it off with just a little will power..Come on man get it right in your mind ...To big a risk to take for me...JMO
 
Yes it is a life altering procedure, but manageable

I can't offer advice but good luck on whatever you decide.
 
I would not do it...Never...You have 2 young boys to think about so why take the risk of something going wrong...Man up and loose the weight on your own ..You can do it just have to put your mind to it. I lost 45lbs last year and have kept it off with just a little will power..Come on man get it right in your mind ...To big a risk to take for me...JMO
To me the risks of health problems (I already have type 2 diabetes) because of the weight is more of a given than the risks of the surgery.  I understand that there are always risks involved with surgery, but IMHO the risks of not doing the surgery are greater.  I don't want anyone to think that I haven't tried to lose weight on my own.  I have.  6 months before my first son was born, I was diagnosed with diabetes.  I worked really hard (gym twice a day, eating right, walking at work, etc) and got down to 288 before I hit a wall.  I agree that it takes will power and after my son was born I didn't have it.  After a few weeks of little sleep, my energy was gone and the first thing to go was the gym.  The next was the eating right cause it was easier not to.  I have since gained most of the weight back.  The realization came when I looked into insurance coverage for the procedure and the minimum requirement was that you had to be at least 100 pounds over your ideal weight.  With my ideal weight being 186, I was still a candidate for surgery at my best weight in years.  That is what solidified my decision.  I believe I am past the point of being talked out of the proceedure.  I have weighed (no pun intended) the risks and the path I am going down is the right one.  If I have to give up some things I love, so be it, but I was hoping some other people that share my love of smoking have done it and can offer some advice.  Be it for or against.  I appreciate everyone's opinions and am glad that I am part of this community that will offer them when asked.

Thanks

Bigfish 
 
It sounds medically speaking you need to lose the weight. I'm not big into the know on what you can and can't eat after, but I do know that you can't eat near as much, and if you force your self, the stomach will stretch and it will all be for nothing.

I smoke for other people to enjoy, as in I never smoke or even cook much for just me, only when others are around to enjoy it. You will be able to enjoy your talents, just not on the scale you do now, but I'm sure your family and friends will still enjoy it. Keep on smoking, and keep to the portions that your doc recommends and enjoy!
 
It sounds medically speaking you need to lose the weight. I'm not big into the know on what you can and can't eat after, but I do know that you can't eat near as much, and if you force your self, the stomach will stretch and it will all be for nothing.

I smoke for other people to enjoy, as in I never smoke or even cook much for just me, only when others are around to enjoy it. You will be able to enjoy your talents, just not on the scale you do now, but I'm sure your family and friends will still enjoy it. Keep on smoking, and keep to the portions that your doc recommends and enjoy!
Thanks.  It is weird how you get into a mindframe and don't even realize it.  You are right.  Most of the time, when I am smoking something, it is for other people to enjoy.  I really don't have to change my smoking, just how much I personally consume.  I can still have my hobby and perfect the art, I just don't have to eat all of it.  Sometimes I guess you need to hear someone else say it before it really sinks in.  Thanks again.

Bigfish
 
Gastric By-Pass...here's just a few things you may need to do differently, things to watch out, and the benefits (based on my spouse's circumstances with the by-pass, type 2 diabetes, metabolic disease, etc):

***Note: a good surgical pre-screening staff should provide you with a detailed booklet containing much of the necessary information (you should already have this, if you are scheduled for the procedure), and each individual may experience somewhat different changes in lifestyle depending on additional health issues. Read/study this info like it's your guide to a new and healthier life...because it is***

Moving forward to a healthier lifestyle-

1. Vitamin/mineral supplements are a must because you do eat less, and may not tolerate certain foods that are needed for proper nutrition very well;

2. The main parts of your diet should be protein based, or you will have hair-loss as well as muscular problems;

3. Sweets are tempting, but stay away from them as they are "dead weight" regarding nutritional value vs calorie intake;

4. Carbohydrate-rich foods, such as breads or pasta may cause plugging of the entry area of your "pouch",as they become a pasty substance after chewing and may build up near the entry area after several bites;

5. Take small bites of food and chew THOROUGHLY before swallowing to avoid plugging your pouch;

6. Carbonated beverages should be avoided, unless the container is opened and allowed to vent/breathe away the carbon dioxide (gas-containing fluids can cause extreme bloating of the very small stomach);

7. Eat each food for the first few times with the understanding that you may not tolerate it well (eat only one food at a time (per meal), until you you feel comfortable that you can tolerate it, then, you can mix tolerable foods together as a meal);

8. Expect to have follow-up clinic visits with your surgeon and his/her staff to identify any problems with the surgery and monitor your recovery and weight-loss progress. Explain any issues you are having with eating certain foods or any other concerns during your clinic visits...they document this and use it to help you and other find ways to cope with or find solutions. The staff will help you stay on track, provide support, and look for additional personalized care specifically to help you be a healthier you. If your progress is good, your clinic appointment frequency can be reduced more and more over time...visits may be approximately 3-5 days after surgery, then, another 1-2 weeks, then monthly for a few moths, quarterly to 6 months, to annually, and so on);

9. Follow the recommended diet as closely as you can...these diets are based actual experiences with similar cases as yours, and are not just based solely on statistics;

10. Smoked foods need to have a lighter or milder smoke flavoring until you find if,  how much, or what types of smoke can be tolerated. Smoked food may cause nausea, especially if it's a heavy or stronger smoke;

11. Use of a light sauce or other condiment to aid in saliva production (to assist in swallowing and depositing the food completely into the pouch) when eating drier cuts of meat (such as chicken breast), or avoid these foods;

12. What type 2 diabetes??? Seriously, the by-pass surgery can help this and other eating/nutritional disorders, such as metabolic disease, to all but disappear. They may remain in the back of your mind, or they may briefly resurface on occasion. If so, your doctor needs to now this, immediately by phone. They will advise you what to do (take your previous meds, go to local emergency room if they feel it could be life-threatening, etc).

13. Staying hydrated may seem like a chore at first, as you can't drink liquids in large quantities, so you need to drink much, much more often, just in sips, if needed. Make a habit of keeping a drinking bottle of water, iced tea or some other beverage that you enjoy, is healthy, and you can tolerate, close at hand.

14. Make the foods and beverages you can tolerate as enjoyable as you can, keeping in mind that processed sugars are still not healthy for you. Sugar-free sweeteners will keep you on track if you just don't like unsweetened.

15. When dining out, some restaurants will honor a wallet-card ID, which identifies you as having a stomach volume-reducing procedure, thereby preventing you from eating larger quantities of foods, and will give reduced prices for buffet dining, or offer small menu portions at greatly reduced prices. Remember everything you've learned about eating at home, and take that with you when dining out, so you don't experience problems while eating.

Don't fear the life-changing path you are choosing. It is a major decision, but it also may save your life. Hundreds of thousands of people have undergone this and other weight-loss enhancing procedures. Success rates vary, but it sounds to me that you really need this to get to a healthy weight and be able to maintain that weight. If obesity has been a life-long struggle and is causing serious health problems (as most all experience eventually), you need this to survive and live a reasonable life expectancy. It won't be a walk in the park, at least not at first, but the changes you make in how you will eat will go along with the surgical procedure to make your life more fulfilling, and these changes will become etched into your daily routine over time and become the habits that you will soon learn to live by.

Stick to your guns. If you can't get healthy without out by-pass or other procedures, you have little else for options. Let your family know that this is what you must do, and ask for their support in your efforts for recovery and getting healthy again. Emotional support from your family and friends (not sympathy, just a little help in doing what you need to do to stay on track) is a vital ingredient to your success. If they don't help you, they may unintentionally be hampering your efforts.

I hope this helps to give you a better perspective on what you may experience, as well as a brighter outlook on your future. The future is everything to you right now, so being able to move forward is your life-line.

Good luck in October, and from here on out!

Eric
 
10. Smoked foods need to have a lighter or milder smoke flavoring until you find if,  how much, or what types of smoke can be tolerated. Smoked food may cause nausea, especially if it's a heavy or stronger smoke;

Eric
Thanks Eric!  That is exactly what I was looking for.  I am starting the lifestyle changes.  I am using smaller plates so i don't eat more than I need, and am starting walking/jogging.  I am going to have my oldest (he's 4) jog with me as he loves to run.  Hoping it will be good for both of us.  And it will keep me interested in it more!  Thanks again.

Bigfish
 
10. Smoked foods need to have a lighter or milder smoke flavoring until you find if,  how much, or what types of smoke can be tolerated. Smoked food may cause nausea, especially if it's a heavy or stronger smoke;

Eric
Thanks Eric!  That is exactly what I was looking for.  I am starting the lifestyle changes.  I am using smaller plates so i don't eat more than I need, and am starting walking/jogging.  I am going to have my oldest (he's 4) jog with me as he loves to run.  Hoping it will be good for both of us.  And it will keep me interested in it more!  Thanks again.

Bigfish
You're most welcome. Hey, that's awesome! You're making some of the necessary changes now while it's still a bit easier, instead of waiting for the whole bomb-shell to drop on you at once. And, having someone exercise with you will really make a huge difference on your outlook and help you want to continue with your plan. Your son is young enough that he may not really understand it, but he's helping you! Excellent start!

Keep your chin up, keep moving forward and looking to the future, and you will make it through in shining colors. If you slip on your dietary intake or miss your intended exercise, etc, don't beat yourself up over it, and definitely don't dwell on it. It's not a mistake, it's simply a step in the wrong direction that can be reversed...yes, moving forward. Always realize that you are human, you have desires, and you will at times make decisions that you may not be proud of. Start fresh every morning, take every day as a new day, with new prospects for a long and healthy life. When you're down and out or just in a slump, try to think about all the good things around you, and realize that you have a lot to look forward to in life. The surgery and what follows can be emotionally draining, so, again, one day at a time. Oh, and don't forget to give yourself and others who may be giving you support and help a pat on the back when you get to see some results for your work...it's a team effort of sorts. You can't do this alone...well, let me just say that it would be much more difficult and require that much more self-discipline and drive to succeed.

Uh, I wasn't really intending on giving you any words of wisdom here, it just came out, but hey, every little bit helps, right? LOL!!!

If something else comes up that you would like to discuss, send me a PM, if you wish. Between the spouse and myself, we may be able to put our heads together and recall many things, some of which may be similar to what you will deal with. Any help and support you can get during your journey is a plus. I probably have forgotten 2/3 of what my spouse experienced by now (surgery was about 4 years ago), so what I listed earlier is just a good starting point.

BTW, by starting this thread you have, in essence, started a personal support group with those who have read and replied, and any who will reply in the future...we'll be here for ya!

Hang tough, my friend!

Eric
 
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The reason I said what I did is a friend of mine died from having the surgery. So The very best to you !!!!
 
Bummer, put your faith in the Lord and seek his guidance, you will prevail.

Ask the Dr.(s) what is best for you to eat and try BBQing that (I hope it's solids for you???).

Veggies are a great choice for Griling or smoking(Taters and Squash, etc.)

Keep us informed  so we can send a funny card for you to laugh at and pop a stitch. (just kidding).

Be good and we are all pulling for you...

Stan..........
 
My Two Cents,

Been there done that, and I WOULD do it again. my diab. was very bad, And of course the things that go with it. blood pressure, nerophity (sp), colesteral (sp), hehe, i hope spelling is optional here.

and POOF it's all gone, haven't had a pill what so ever in 4 years, sugar is great, bp is awesome. feet are numb but that will be a life issue non reversable. every day I suppelment with.

1. vit C

1 B-12

1 Flinstone complete

1 tums ultra for the calcium.

Haven't even had the sniffles since the surgery 4 years ago.

Cons

Can't eat steak, or solid beef anyway. No breads, torts, crusty foods, rice, and others.

I do well on pork, poultry, fish. burger., Smoking foods, well heavens yes.

GL with the life change, you'll be fine and love it.

ZZ
 
I want to thank everyone for their comments.  For and against.  I want you all to know I really appreciate it.  This is a big moment in my life and I am glad I can share it with all of you. 

Thanks again!

Bigfish. 

P.S.  Check out my "maximum meat" post.  I didn't eat a whole slice.  My parents and wife did.  I didn't feel like I was missing out on anything.  It made me feel good to just make something good for my family.  I still ate more than I should, but I will get there!
 
Hey Bigfish first off I want to wish you luck on your procedure, and may god bless you and your family.  Before I got sick my self, and became dissabled I was a Surgical Technologist.  I did not participate in Bariatric surgery except maybe 1 or 2.  I was good friends with the Bariatric Team, and If i could make a suggestion to you if you do not mind.  Talk to your Surgeon and see if he does gastric banding, instead of the gastric bypass.  I always look at this option first, becuase if there are complications, it can be removed.  As well as if the weight is not coming off, they can add fluids to the gastric band through a port to tighten it around your stomach, thus limiting the amout of food intake.  Anyway you go, I pray that everything goes well for you, Take care my friend
 
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