Thanks for coming back and looking. The first time I made it I followed the instructions from Ragnar exactly. (I belive they are originaly from Kutas book.) That time I used all pork since thats what I had on hand. This time I used 65%beef and 35%pork.5 gr.b. pepper, 10gr. Gr. Mustard,24 gr. Mustard seed,10 gr. Nutmeg, 24 gr. Garlic, 13 gr. Onion powder, 61 gr. Salt, 3 tb.dextrose, 4 oz. Ice water,1 cup dry milk and at the end 32 gr. Eca. Did the standard preheat and 10 degree rise per hr.topped out at 165 or as close as possible. Hickory smoke for 5 hrs. Got it to it-134 is and finished in 170 water bath. Took less then 1/2 hr. To it-158. Had to taste one. Couldn't resist. Much much better. Mabey touch too much garlic for some but I say it's perfect for me. Give it a try! You will not be disappointed!