Gas Prices???

[Gonna Smoke]

Filled up my gas truck yesterday for $2.64/gal. Road diesel is around $2.79/gal. Here's a pic I took a couple of weeks ago. I haven't seen diesel cheaper than gas in a long time, but that didn't last long...

 

[sandyut]

Gas prices here have not moved a penny. Barrel of oil running ~$61. What gives!

 

[jcam222]

Gas prices here have not moved a penny. Barrel of oil running ~$61. What gives!

I read there I usually a 2-3 month lag on oil vs gas prices. Not sure though

 

[Smokin Okie]

Gas prices here have not moved a penny. Barrel of oil running ~$61. What gives!

This is one flaw in all markets, not just gasoline. Prices fall slower than they rise.

As for gasoline, its all on the retailers. They have no incentive to voluntarily lower their price until they begin to see a drop in sales.

And the blame goes to consumers who mostly don't price shop. They just go to the same station to get gas that they always do and don't pay a lot of attention to prices.

Price shopping would reward stations who are first to lower their price with higher sales and provide incentive for other stations to follow.

This happens in everything.

 

[mneeley490]

This is one flaw in all markets, not just gasoline. Prices fall slower than they rise.

As for gasoline, its all on the retailers. They have no incentive to voluntarily lower their price until they begin to see a drop in sales.

And the blame goes to consumers who mostly don't price shop. They just go to the same station to get gas that they always do and don't pay a lot of attention to prices.

Price shopping would reward stations who are first to lower their price with higher sales and provide incentive for other stations to follow.

This happens in everything.

I've seen this before. When crude prices are high, they jack up gas prices instantly, and say it's Supply & Demand.
When crude prices are low, they say the cheaper gas hasn't made it's way to them yet, and still keep the prices high.

 

[Brokenhandle]

Years ago when I worked off the farm, I stopped at my normal gas station to get gas, had to wait in line for what seemed like forever... when I asked the cashier what gives for all the cars she said all the other gas stations had raised their gas prices 1 cent and the station I was at wasn't gonna raise it till the next day. For the less than 20 cents savings I should have gone to a different station with no lines.

Ryan

 

[Smokin Okie]

I've seen this before. When crude prices are high, they jack up gas prices instantly, and say it's Supply & Demand.
When crude prices are low, they say the cheaper gas hasn't made it's way to them yet, and still keep the prices high.

Not really. When prices rise, the wholesale price goes up, and the retailer has to mark up his price. They have to pass the price increase immediately, or lose money.

No one in the process " jacks up " the price.

The refiner sits in the middle between two free markets, one for oil and the other for refined products, and the price in markets on both ends is established by supply/demand.

As I said, when the price of the refined product falls, it gets passed to the retailer but he has no incentive to lower his price. As long as the sales volume remains the same, he's not gonna move his price down.

Each retailer will react to a competitor dropping their price, or else they lose sales a volume.

And the consumer has to price shop. Use an app like Gas Buddy and drive out of their way to get the lowest price.

 

[dls1]

I use premium in our Mustang, and only use Shell. I filled up yesterday & it was below $4 a gallon. First time in a while it has been that low.
Al

Like you, we only run Shell Premium in both of our cars (Audi's) an RS7P and an RS6 Avant. Filled them both yesterday @ $4.89/gallon.

 

[fxsales1959]

How much do you pay per gallon?

Minneapolis, MN = $3.60/gallon

How much do you pay per gallon?

Minneapolis, MN = $3.60/gallon

$2.93 this morning for Marathon top tier. Sh*t gas a little cheaper.

 

[Brokenhandle]

Just realized this thread started in 2011!

Ryan

 

[Smokin Okie]

Just realized this thread started in 2011!

Ryan

Lots of water under the bridge

 

[912smoker]

Used my .50 off yesterday and dropped it to $2.25 a gallon. Filled up 2 vehicles!

Keith

 

[bigfurmn]

Just realized this thread started in 2011!

Ryan

I noticed that the other day and just didn't get involved. Until now.

 

[Brokenhandle]

I noticed that the other day and just didn't get involved. Until now.

No idea what fuel costs around here... I buy most of my fuel 7 miles away at a cardtrol station. Keep forgetting to look at prices when I drive through that town. But I do know E doesn't stand for enough! When ya need fuel you need it.

Ryan

 

[Fueling Around]

I saw this thread was really old and don't remember what brought it up.
I saw this was a very old thread. Don't recall what resurrected it.

I'm chuckling because local prices dropped before the long weekend, when many complain about the prices going up for the holiday gouge.

Run a couple tanks of ethanol free racing gas through it...you'll be surprised how much better it runs but you'll also be broke!

Adding Sta-Bil 360 to each fill up isn't a bad idea and a lot cheaper than buying racing gas.

I can get ethanol free at a couple of stations in town. No need to go racing or to the airport. Still very pricey, but less than race or airport
I use Star-Tron which does a great job on ethanol based fuels.

I read there I usually a 2-3 month lag on oil vs gas prices. Not sure though

It really depends on your retailer.
Here (NW MN) they hold prices based on last tanker fill. If prices go up they lag behind a few days until the next tanker. My brother (Idaho) used to complain that local stations jumped price immediately when they increased, but waited until the tanker arrived with lower priced fuel to drop the price

 

[chopsaw]

Here (NW MN) they hold prices based on last tanker fill. If prices go up they lag behind a few days until the next tanker.

Right . If they still have gas / fuel in the ground that cost them more than the new price drop , they still need to sell that load for the original profit based on price paid .
I worked at a Texaco station way back when , and he had to write that check before the load was dumped .

Ran up yesterday for gas for the lawnmower . Ended up with 3.0 gallons in a 2 1/2 gallon can .
Time to call weights and measure .

 

[jcam222]

Right . If they still have gas / fuel in the ground that cost them more than the new price drop , they still need to sell that load for the original profit based on price paid .
I worked at a Texaco station way back when , and he had to write that check before the load was dumped .

Ran up yesterday for gas for the lawnmower . Ended up with 3.0 gallons in a 2 1/2 gallon can .
Time to call weights and measure .

That's some crooked stuff there for sure!

 

[chopsaw]

That's some crooked stuff there for sure!

When I worked at Texaco , weights and measure was in there twice a month at least to make sure the pump volume matched the advertised price . That's all set ( or used to be ) inside the pump itself . I used to see them at other stations , just in general checking and reporting , long after I worked in the gas station . Been a real long time since I have seen them on site checking pump flow .
Hard to tell when filling a car or truck , but even if it's 10 cents in their favor , X's the volume of customers , that's huge . May not do it on purpose , but that's why is was watched by an independant .

 

[texomakid]

I worked at several gas stations back in my school days and I was also a member of VICA in high school. Every week we had to fill out a work report and in the job description I always put "Petroleum Transfer Engineer". My teacher and classmates always got a kick out of that.

At that time, Ethel 93 octane was an expensive .60/gal and I bought gasoline a couple of dollars at a time

I am old......

 

[Gonna Smoke]

At that time, Ethel 93 octane was an expensive .60/gal and I bought gasoline a couple of dollars at a time

Yep and a couple dollars of gas would get you a long way. I remember 21¢/gal for regular...