Christmas Eve brisket

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daddycreswell

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The family wants brisket for our Christmas Eve dinner. I have never cooked brisket before, don't even know what I am looking for when I go to the store to select one. I have smoked butt, ribs and turkey. So I am ready to move on to something new. Learn me all you can...Thanks
 
Here's most of what I have posted about brisket...take them one at a time, as they all discuss a bit different methods, or were smoked in a different smoker. I only posted links to my smokes because I know my methods well, and have made refinements to them over the past few years, but for the most part, smoking good brisket is not complicated, unless you want to make it that way.

This is an all out go for the gold smoke, with mid-smoke separation of the point and flat muscles, sliced flat and burnt ends from the point:

http://www.smokingmeatforums.com/t/...riskets-burnt-ends-taters-in-the-vault-q-view

http://www.smokingmeatforums.com/t/105105/i-dream-of-brisket-big-brisket-progressive-q-view

Remnants from a brisket made into burnt ends with the point, and if I recall, a small flat which was sliced:

http://www.smokingmeatforums.com/t/102525/burnt-ends-remnant-flat-cut-q-view

This one gives a good look at pre-smoke separation of the point and flat muscles in a whole "packer" brisket:

http://www.smokingmeatforums.com/fo...et-in-brinky-gourmet-trim-separation-w-q-view

Anyway, those some of my more informative threads on brisket...lots of info, but you have some time yet to figure out how you want to smoke and present it to your family/guests.

Here's where you can find out exactly what the brisket looks like and where it comes from, posted by Pops6927:

http://www.smokingmeatforums.com/t/122288/beef-101

Let us know if there's something you'd like to know more details about...methods for prep and smoking in particular. I do recommend that you do not inject the brisket, as it is much more forgiving in regards to cooking guidelines, being it will be intact whole muscle meat, whereas injected is a compromised muscle.

Eric
 
Thanks Eric, I have been reading all of your stuff. I am looking to do a 4-6 lb brisket, so I guess cook time is 8-12 hrs? Where is the best place to get this size?
 
Hmm, 4-6lb would be a flat cut, probably labeled as center cut. It will be trimmed lean, so may need a few tricks to keep it moist while it takes a long, slow ride to get tender...it's do-able, though. Wally-world or Sam's and other big-box stores regularly carry them. Whole packers are $4.59'lb around here now...trimmed flats would be at least that plus a buck or so, but our meat prices are usually higher than most places.

Time could run about that, but could be less as well. Trimmed flats have a lower cross-sectional density, meaning not as thick as a whole packer, especially if un-trimmed. I checked back and see you have a Master Forge propane smoker...not familiar with it's convection efficiency, but it could be very similar to my Smoke Vault, in that respect.

For a trimmed flat or center-cut, I would run around 215-220* smoke chamber temp, and start with a wet water pan for better smoke reaction. Probe for internal temps after about 4 hours and dump the water after reaching 150*+ I/T. Wait, scratch the water pan...clean-up your water pan good and add washed pea gravel or play sand (season this by heating up for 20-30 minutes over medium flame...the sand/gravel acts as a thermal mass for better control of temp swings). When you're ready to smoke, put a foil drippings catch over the water pan, just on top of the gravel or sand. Have a lip on the foil drip catch so you can add 1/2 qt or so of water. A small baking pan would also work for this as long as it doesn't baffle the heat (is not larger than the water pan's foot-print). The water will evaporate more slowly than it would if it were directly in the pan and will aid in smoke reaction. If the water is gone after 4-5 hours, leave it dry. The drier smoke chamber will seal-up the meat's surface and reduce natural moisture evaporation from the meat by tightening the meat's fibers. Works like a charm in keeping leaner cuts moist when finished at higher internal temps. I've done quite a few posts on this method already, and the results have been very convincing. It does develop a bark on the meat as well (can be very pronounced), though if you don't want bark, you can rest foiled and it will soften the bark during resting from it's own steam in the foil. I use this method strictly for no-foiled smokes, and use it for all my hot smokes, lately.

Wet to dry smoke chamber has been my "go to" method for many smokes since last spring, and I find it very effective for achieving moist meats. I just haven't had the opportunity to use this method with a lean trimmed brisket (yet...clock is ticking, though). Let me know if this sounds like something you'd be interested in trying, or would like to know more about it. It is a snap to make it work with vertical smokers, btw, and I've used it with a highly modified Brinkmann Gourmet charcoal as well as my Smoke Vault 24 gasser.

Here's a few threads that may open up your mind to the possibilities for a lean-trimmed brisket flat and what the wet/dry smoke chamber method can do for it, among other meats (listed from most recent to oldest):

http://www.smokingmeatforums.com/t/...chamber-cherry-rbp-rub-recipe-q-view-finished

http://www.smokingmeatforums.com/t/...hamber-cherry-balsamic-finishing-sauce-q-view

http://www.smokingmeatforums.com/t/127603/16lbs-lbrs-idahoes-beans-dry-smoke-chamber-q-view

http://www.smokingmeatforums.com/t/...-wet-dry-smoke-chamber-humidity-q-view-method

http://www.smokingmeatforums.com/t/...mmed-butt-wet-dry-smoke-chamber-q-view-method

http://www.smokingmeatforums.com/t/...n-gourmet-w-dry-smoke-chamber-q-view-finished

I don't mean to give you an information overload here...just want you to have a very good 1st brisket experience and a fine meal for your efforts. And, there are many ways to pull together the finish of a brisket with Au Jus (Chef JimmyJ, jarjarchef and a few others here have posts on this, if I recall correctly), or the base for a light finishing sauce. A good brisket doesn't need much to bring it all home, though, and Au Jus is one of the best, most simple ways to do it. The natural drippings from the meat (caught in the drippings catch over the dry water pan, for example) is the best way to start a great smoked beef finish on the plate.

Keep in touch...this thread's got me wanting to try a brisket flat again (haven't smoked brisket since early last spring), only now I'm armed with a better smoke chamber humidity control method (wet/dry) from other meats I've smoked. I'd love to hear of you trying it to confirm it for me, as I won't have the opportunity for several weeks yet, as my work schedule has been an overload, and my next smoke will be a ribs & rib eye (from a 7-bone whole beef rib) for Christmas dinner (will use wet/dry chamber for this as well). I have no doubts it will yield moist and tender brisket.

Looking forward to hearing back from you!

Eric
 
Thanks a ton Eric, kind of information overload, but it's info I need to sort through and figure out whats the best method for me. I have a few days to read over and get my best plan together. Once I get everything together and get started I'll update the thread. One other question, since I am doing a center cut, it will produce the same as a packer (meat type) correct?
 
The whole brisket has two muscles: flat and point...the point is a different type of muscle, with a tubular muscle construction and more inter-muscular fat than the flat muscle. The flat is more of a fibrous muscle construction, with tightly grouped muscle fibers and much less inter-muscular fat than the point.

The flat alone is a bit more difficult to achieve a moist and tender slice without the benefit of a fat-cap, but it can be done.

Packers (whole brisket) are pretty forgiving, but it is a LONG smoke.


Eric
 
Very good info Eric I have been wanting to do my first  brisket, I am having a cow butchered this week told them I want the brisket will it be a full packer or what - do you know what they usually do??thanks Steve
 
Very good info Eric I have been wanting to do my first  brisket, I am having a cow butchered this week told them I want the brisket will it be a full packer or what - do you know what they usually do??thanks Steve
Steve,

You'll get two whole brisket (packers) from each carcass. If you told them you wanted the briskets, they should be whole brisket and untrimmed, so they will have the full fat-cap covering the point and flat muscles, as one piece. You may want to verify with the processor before it's slaughtered to be sure you're both on the same page.

Eric
 
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