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Great, thank you for all the info. I might have to pull the trigger on this one then.
Any other mods you think need to be done with this model? Have you tried any other pellets that you like?

As far as Rec Tec mods, some people like to go with larger wheels. I might do that.

As far as pellets, some of the best advice I've ever seen on pellets is in a thread right on this forum.

https://www.smokingmeatforums.com/threads/are-all-pellets-created-equal.180686/

The entire thread is informative, especially post #18 and #20. Key pointers which have helped me and which appear in post #18 are

"Find a pellet that works for you and stick with it

Get better at cooking with the pellets you own

Constantly changing pellets increases the variables during cooking"

The key point that I took out of post #20 was:

"When your pellet grill gets to temp, it's just not producing much smoke. The pellets are burning more efficiently, in-order to produce higher BTU's, so they produce less smoke. Let the pellets in the hopper produce heat, and the Tube produce smoke. Best of both worlds!"

What I take from the above is; for best smoke flavor from a pellet grill, use supplemental methods. And if you are going to be using supplemental methods to get you your best smoke, well then it really doesn't matter as much which pellets you're doing your cooking with. Pick one and stick to it. Choose something that is going to give you high BTUs, and low ash.

I pretty much adhere to the above "advice" and theories when it comes to pellets.

I settled on CookinPellets Perfect Mix, because to my taste buds, it gives me more smoke flavor at the higher "grilling temperatures" than the blended pellets did. The Perfect Mix also give me low ash and it burns well and is reasonably priced. I tend not to use a smoke tube, at higher grilling temperatures, but I understand that others may.

The smoke flavor that I get from grilled foods, foods cooked at above 350*, using this particular pellet and no supplemental smoke, is suitable to my tastes. I get enough smoke flavor at grilling temperatures of 350* plus, using just these pellets being fed from the grill's hopper. But it may not be enough smoke under these circumstances for others.

However at lower, smoking temperatures, 225 (or less) up to about 250, and because I like a stronger smoke flavor than just pellets from the hopper at the Extreme Smoke setting give, a degree of smoke which I should add, that may or may not be enough for the taste of the next person, I'm not depending on the pellets from my hopper to give me the level of smoke flavor I want on my longer "low and slow" and "overnight" smoking efforts. I use supplemental smoke for that.

So because I like what some might consider to be "a lot of smoke", I rely on either one of my smoke tubes, or my Smokedaddy Heavy D, to provide most of my smoke flavor for my "low and slow cooks". I rely on my hopper pellets to handle the cooking chore as opposed to providing most of the smoke flavor.

This technique and effort, gives me a result from my pellet smoker which is difficult, if not impossible, for me to distinguish from results I obtain from low and slow cooks from my Kamado Joe, my WSM, even my old stick burner, to my tastes.

So to recap, if I'm doing a low and slow smoke, I'm running my usual CookinPellets Perfect Mix, or what's left of my Rec Tec Ultimate Blend, in the hopper, and either an A-MAZE-N smoke tube with A-MAZE-N hickory or Pecan pellets in it, or a Cave Tools Pellet Tube Wood Smoker Box with A-MAZE-N hickory or pecan pellets in it , or, as of recently, my Smoke Daddy Heavy D diffuser loaded with hickory or Pecan splits and/or hickory chunks.

I do my low and slow smoking this way, because I like more smoke, and more of a WSM or stick burner type smoke on my "low and slow" smoked food than some other people may like.

Others will of course, be perfectly happy with the degree of smoke flavor provided under the Extreme Smoke type settings of the Rec Tec and other manufacturer's grills, and a different favorite pellet as their "hopper pellet" and won't use any supplemental smoke methods.
 
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As far as Rec Tec mods, some people like to go with larger wheels. I might do that.

As far as pellets, some of the best advice I've ever seen on pellets is in a thread right on this forum.

https://www.smokingmeatforums.com/threads/are-all-pellets-created-equal.180686/

The entire thread is informative, especially post #18 and #20. Key pointers which have helped me and which appear in post #18 are

"Find a pellet that works for you and stick with it

Get better at cooking with the pellets you own

Constantly changing pellets increases the variables during cooking"

The key point that I took out of post #20 was:

"When your pellet grill gets to temp, it's just not producing much smoke. The pellets are burning more efficiently, in-order to produce higher BTU's, so they produce less smoke. Let the pellets in the hopper produce heat, and the Tube produce smoke. Best of both worlds!"

What I take from the above is; for best smoke flavor from a pellet grill, use supplemental methods. And if you are going to be using supplemental methods to get you your best smoke, well then it really doesn't matter as much which pellets you're doing your cooking with. Pick one and stick to it. Choose something that is going to give you high BTUs, and low ash.

I pretty much adhere to the above "advice" and theories when it comes to pellets.

I settled on CookinPellets Perfect Mix, because to my taste buds, it gives me more smoke flavor at the higher "grilling temperatures" than the blended pellets did. The Perfect Mix also give me low ash and it burns well and is reasonably priced. I tend not to use a smoke tube, at higher grilling temperatures, but I understand that others may.

The smoke flavor that I get from grilled foods, foods cooked at above 350*, using this particular pellet and no supplemental smoke, is suitable to my tastes. I get enough smoke flavor at grilling temperatures of 350* plus, using just these pellets being fed from the grill's hopper. But it may not be enough smoke under these circumstances for others.

However at lower, smoking temperatures, 225 (or less) up to about 250, and because I like a stronger smoke flavor than just pellets from the hopper at the Extreme Smoke setting give, a degree of smoke which I should add, that may or may not be enough for the taste of the next person, I'm not depending on the pellets from my hopper to give me the level of smoke flavor I want on my longer "low and slow" and "overnight" smoking efforts. I use supplemental smoke for that.

So because I like what some might consider to be "a lot of smoke", I rely on either one of my smoke tubes, or my Smokedaddy Heavy D, to provide most of my smoke flavor for my "low and slow cooks". I rely on my hopper pellets to handle the cooking chore as opposed to providing most of the smoke flavor.

This technique and effort, gives me a result from my pellet smoker which is difficult, if not impossible, for me to distinguish from results I obtain from low and slow cooks from my Kamado Joe, my WSM, even my old stick burner, to my tastes.

So to recap, if I'm doing a low and slow smoke, I'm running my usual CookinPellets Perfect Mix, or what's left of my Rec Tec Ultimate Blend, in the hopper, and either an A-MAZE-N smoke tube with A-MAZE-N hickory or Pecan pellets in it, or a Cave Tools Pellet Tube Wood Smoker Box with A-MAZE-N hickory or pecan pellets in it , or, as of recently, my Smoke Daddy Heavy D diffuser loaded with hickory or Pecan splits and/or hickory chunks.

I do my low and slow smoking this way, because I like more smoke, and more of a WSM or stick burner type smoke on my "low and slow" smoked food than some other people may like.

Others will of course, be perfectly happy with the degree of smoke flavor provided under the Extreme Smoke type settings of the Rec Tec and other manufacturer's grills, and a different favorite pellet as their "hopper pellet" and won't use any supplemental smoke methods.
Thank you for all the information. I guess I will need to just try it out and see what I like. I am used to my master built vertical propane smoker. I will see how this compares and tweak the taste to how I like it.
 
Also do you use the CookinPellets for the hickory and pecan. So you normally use the A-MAZE-N tube with a specific flavor of pellets not a mix? I am assuming this will heighten the smoke flavor.
 
I got it now i think. So you pretty much use not so great pellets for the fuel but get the premium quality pellets for the smoking tub. The hopper pellets are really just used for fuel.
 
Also do you use the CookinPellets for the hickory and pecan. So you normally use the A-MAZE-N tube with a specific flavor of pellets not a mix? I am assuming this will heighten the smoke flavor.

Yes. I use the CookinPellets perfect mix because to my taste, it still gives me the smoke flavor that I want when I grill at higher temperatures like 350* and above.

Those temps where smoke flavor that I get from pellets, especially blends, IMO begins to weaken.

These are instanes when I am not using a smoke tube. However some people will still use a smoke tube at temps like that and higher, because they know that once you turn a pellet grill up into the higher temps, smoke flavor weakens because the pellets are burning cleaner the higher in temp you go. I don't use a smoke tube at higher temps though. Just my preference. But some folks will use a smoke tube no matter what temp they're cooking at.

At lower temps like 225 (or less) and on up to 250*, I stick with my same CookinPellets Perfect Mix in my hopper because that's what I buy and use and see no reason to swap out hopper pellets because I'll be using supplemental smoke for that low and slow cook. Some people like Lumberjack, others like one of the other brands.

The CookinPellets Perfect Mix, give me, to my particular taste, what I would call a "light" smoke by themselves. Someone else might call it plenty of smoke flavor. I don't. So I'm using them in that low and slow instance as my fuel source, or cooking source, and I'm depending on my A-MAZE-N smoke tube, or my Cave Tools Pellet Tube Wood Smoker Box, loaded with A-MAZE-N hickory and/or Pecan pellets to give me the majority of my smoke flavor for that low and slow cook.

A-MAZE-N hardwood pellets aren't cheap, and you likely would not want to load your hopper up with them because they are not cheap, but as far as their hardwood pellets, in my opinion they are hard to beat. They give off a very good aroma and taste.

I either do that, or my Heavy D loaded with wood chunks or splits that I'm experimenting with now.

I got it now i think. So you pretty much use not so great pellets for the fuel but get the premium quality pellets for the smoking tub. The hopper pellets are really just used for fuel.

You got it. Especially at higher temps, because at higher temps, pellets burn so clean and produce very little smoke anyway.

Pretty much, that's the route I take. My hopper pellets serve two purposes for me. First to afford me as much smoke flavor as I can get in those cases where I personally won't be using a smoke tube, ie higher temp cooks. During those cooks, I know that I won't be getting much smoke flavor using just the pellets from the hopper.

At high temps on a pellet grill, you're liable to see very little if any smoke, no matter what pellet you're using as pellets burn so clean. So at the higher temps, what I've found is; little to no smoke, little to no smoke taste.

Secondly my hopper pellets provide my heat for my low and slow cooks while still giving me some smoke at those lower temps. But while that may be enough smoke for some people for their low and slow cooking purposes, at those low temps, I go ahead and use supplemental smoke using A-Maze-N pellets in one of my smoke tubes, or by using my Smoke Daddy Heavy D and wood chunks or splits.

Finally, I want little ash, reasonable price, at least some smoke taste that is sufficient to my taste for food cooked at high temps, and no filler woods.
 
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Got it. Yea those are relatively expensive pellets. I am going to test it out a bit. Maybe try some competition blend in the hopper and then try like a specific flavor like hickory in the tube. Most stuff I cook is low and slow. See what how things come out. I will use the cheaper meats to experiment on haha.
Hows the App heard there's a lot of issues with it. Not really to concerned about it though.
 
Got it. Yea those are relatively expensive pellets. I am going to test it out a bit. Maybe try some competition blend in the hopper and then try like a specific flavor like hickory in the tube. Most stuff I cook is low and slow. See what how things come out. I will use the cheaper meats to experiment on haha.
Hows the App heard there's a lot of issues with it. Not really to concerned about it though.

I have had no issues with the App. However I use an iPhone. I have heard that late last year there were some folks who had Android phones having an issue, a "Data or Parameter Error" when temperature charting long cooks.

Apparently their fix was to change the units from 30 mins to 15 mins in the temperature chart.
 
As far as Rec Tec mods, some people like to go with larger wheels. I might do that.

As far as pellets, some of the best advice I've ever seen on pellets is in a thread right on this forum.

https://www.smokingmeatforums.com/threads/are-all-pellets-created-equal.180686/

The entire thread is informative, especially post #18 and #20. Key pointers which have helped me and which appear in post #18 are

"Find a pellet that works for you and stick with it

Get better at cooking with the pellets you own

Constantly changing pellets increases the variables during cooking"

The key point that I took out of post #20 was:

"When your pellet grill gets to temp, it's just not producing much smoke. The pellets are burning more efficiently, in-order to produce higher BTU's, so they produce less smoke. Let the pellets in the hopper produce heat, and the Tube produce smoke. Best of both worlds!"

What I take from the above is; for best smoke flavor from a pellet grill, use supplemental methods. And if you are going to be using supplemental methods to get you your best smoke, well then it really doesn't matter as much which pellets you're doing your cooking with. Pick one and stick to it. Choose something that is going to give you high BTUs, and low ash.

I pretty much adhere to the above "advice" and theories when it comes to pellets.

I settled on CookinPellets Perfect Mix, because to my taste buds, it gives me more smoke flavor at the higher "grilling temperatures" than the blended pellets did. The Perfect Mix also give me low ash and it burns well and is reasonably priced. I tend not to use a smoke tube, at higher grilling temperatures, but I understand that others may.

The smoke flavor that I get from grilled foods, foods cooked at above 350*, using this particular pellet and no supplemental smoke, is suitable to my tastes. I get enough smoke flavor at grilling temperatures of 350* plus, using just these pellets being fed from the grill's hopper. But it may not be enough smoke under these circumstances for others.

However at lower, smoking temperatures, 225 (or less) up to about 250, and because I like a stronger smoke flavor than just pellets from the hopper at the Extreme Smoke setting give, a degree of smoke which I should add, that may or may not be enough for the taste of the next person, I'm not depending on the pellets from my hopper to give me the level of smoke flavor I want on my longer "low and slow" and "overnight" smoking efforts. I use supplemental smoke for that.

So because I like what some might consider to be "a lot of smoke", I rely on either one of my smoke tubes, or my Smokedaddy Heavy D, to provide most of my smoke flavor for my "low and slow cooks". I rely on my hopper pellets to handle the cooking chore as opposed to providing most of the smoke flavor.

This technique and effort, gives me a result from my pellet smoker which is difficult, if not impossible, for me to distinguish from results I obtain from low and slow cooks from my Kamado Joe, my WSM, even my old stick burner, to my tastes.

So to recap, if I'm doing a low and slow smoke, I'm running my usual CookinPellets Perfect Mix, or what's left of my Rec Tec Ultimate Blend, in the hopper, and either an A-MAZE-N smoke tube with A-MAZE-N hickory or Pecan pellets in it, or a Cave Tools Pellet Tube Wood Smoker Box with A-MAZE-N hickory or pecan pellets in it , or, as of recently, my Smoke Daddy Heavy D diffuser loaded with hickory or Pecan splits and/or hickory chunks.

I do my low and slow smoking this way, because I like more smoke, and more of a WSM or stick burner type smoke on my "low and slow" smoked food than some other people may like.

Others will of course, be perfectly happy with the degree of smoke flavor provided under the Extreme Smoke type settings of the Rec Tec and other manufacturer's grills, and a different favorite pellet as their "hopper pellet" and won't use any supplemental smoke methods.
Thanks for that very informative treatise on smoke generation and use. I didn't know much of that, especially about the smoke tubes. I guess I'll have to do some research in that area. The CookinPellets brand is not available locally, but the LJ brand is from several venders. I decide up front that I would just use one pellet for 100% of my cooks on my Woodwind. I've settled on the LJ Comp MHC Blend. Changing out pellets for individual cooks - for me - is just not worth the effort. So far the smoke flavor has been on the mild side and adequate for all of my cooks, but I'm not a big fan of heavy smoke flavor anyway. I will look into the smoke tubes some more. Thanks again.
 
I have had no issues with the App. However I use an iPhone. I have heard that late last year there were some folks who had Android phones having an issue, a "Data or Parameter Error" when temperature charting long cooks.

Apparently their fix was to change the units from 30 mins to 15 mins in the temperature chart.
On a low and slow cook ever notice how many pellets you go through per hour? Just wondering cause i know every smoker is different. Lets say its a normal spring day 65-70 degrees.
 
On a low and slow cook ever notice how many pellets you go through per hour? Just wondering cause i know every smoker is different. Lets say its a normal spring day 65-70 degrees.

They claim about 1lb/hr. I believe it. High pellet consumption isn’t a problem for me. The grill heats up fast and holds heat well.
 
They claim about 1lb/hr. I believe it. High pellet consumption isn’t a problem for me. The grill heats up fast and holds heat well.
Great thank you. I don't really mind it. Just wondering what I can expect to plan accordingly. You think I can pick up a generic BBQ cover for this?
 
Great thank you. I don't really mind it. Just wondering what I can expect to plan accordingly. You think I can pick up a generic BBQ cover for this?

You probably could. Which generic cover would fit it best though, I don’t know.

But no reason why a generic cover wouldn’t work for it.
 
Put the order in just waiting for it now haha.

You won't regret it.

A great product, and customer service like you would not believe.

It should take you less than an hour, and arguably much less than an hour to get the legs, wheels and bottom shelf on it and get it upright.

A little light viewing, to shorten your wait and get you up and running quickly.



May as well go ahead and download the app now and learn how to use it too while you're at it.





This following link is the use of the app, but on the smaller Trailblazer. One of the advantages to going with Rec Tec, is that they use the same well designed and implemented controller across the entire line of their grills. You're getting the same controller in your Stampede, as if you had ordered a Bull or a their biggest baddest BFG unit. If they have confidence in that controller and ceramic ignition system, in those units, enough to warranty them (and the other parts) for 6 years in those units, well then I feel confident that my controller and ceramic ignition system, the same ones used in those units, will last me a long time in my Stampede.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-PsImi-vyc

May as well also learn how to calibrate the Rec Tec dead nuts on with your Thermoworks Smoke. I have used a variation of the recommended technique, but I place my Smoke thermometer probe next to my grill's internal probe so that it reads in the same place as the grill's probe. Calibrating your two food probes if you want or need to, is easy as well.



And again, while you're waiting, you may as well watch the following to get you up and running ASAP.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjodvKVQAwE



Good luck, and congrats on the Stampede.
 
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Thank you sir. I am sure I will have some other questions. Thank you. I know in my propane smoker i needed a water pan. You don't need one in the pellet ones right?
 
Thank you sir. I am sure I will have some other questions. Thank you. I know in my propane smoker i needed a water pan. You don't need one in the pellet ones right?

If you were using a water pan to help with temp control in your propane smoker, well then no, you do not need one in the Rec Tec with it's PID controller in an effort to control temps.

Your temps are now going to be plus or minus 5 degrees or less, of where you set them for the duration of your cooks, aside from you opening the lid to spritz or inspect things.

That's the kind of accuracy that PID controller is going to give you. Rest easy. No water pans needed.

However if you are of the school which believes that water pans add moisture to your food, and make smoke adhere to it better, well then you certainly could use one if you thougt that it be of benefit in that regard.

But a water pan is not needed to help with temp control in a pellet grill with a PID controller such as the Rec Tec.
 
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I tried a water pan off to the side on a beef roast cook this weekend and I cant tell you if it helped or not,they turned out great but unless I cooked another without it I cant honestly say. I have been using LJ char/hickory testingitand it has a huge amount of smoke compared to some others
 
I tried a water pan off to the side on a beef roast cook this weekend and I cant tell you if it helped or not,they turned out great but unless I cooked another without it I cant honestly say. I have been using LJ char/hickory testingitand it has a huge amount of smoke compared to some others
Thank you. I will try it with out it for now. Are you using a Rec Tec?
 
I tried a water pan off to the side on a beef roast cook this weekend and I cant tell you if it helped or not,they turned out great but unless I cooked another without it I cant honestly say. I have been using LJ char/hickory testingitand it has a huge amount of smoke compared to some others

I had a coupon at Dicks for $10.00 off of any item, and they had this pellet that you describe above, Lumber Jack char/hickory for $14.99 for a 20lb bag. I picked up a bag based on your described experience.

I figure for what amounted to $4.99 plus tax for the 20lb bag, it would be worth a try in either one of my smoke tubes or my hopper.

It's worth a $5.00 test run for sure. I'll give it a try my next cook.

How was the taste?
 
I read that LJ is really good so i might try them too. Lowes has pitboss Combination blend for 16 dollars i think. I might pick up a bag of that for the hopper to see how that is. Not sure if anyone has tried them.
 
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