A Short Discourse on Preburning Wood

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richtee

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Preburning wood chunks for the purpose of smoking meats

Many smaller smokers use either gas, charcoal, or electricity to produce fairly low cooking temps for the meat in the smoker. Wood chips/chunks are then added for the smoke flavoring their smoke imparts to said meat.

It is my contention that wood, especially used in small chunk form should be preburnt to a black near ash condition before inserting into the firebox for smoking in these smaller units.

As wood starts to burn, most of the nasty volatile types of chemicals contained in the wood are the first to get cooked off.
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Here is an excerpt from http://www.woodheat.org/environment/smoke.htm

As pollutants go, the story of wood smoke is an interesting one. Chemically speaking, wood is about half carbon and the rest is mostly made up of oxygen and hydrogen. When you heat up a piece of wood, it starts to smoke and turn black at the same time. This is because the other stuff vaporizes under intense heat faster than the carbon burns, so smoking leaves much of the carbon behind until only charcoal, which is just about pure carbon, is left. The smoke that vaporizes out of the wood is a cloud of nasty, gooey little droplets of a tar-like liquid. Chemically, these droplets are actually big, gooey, complicated hydrocarbon molecules that take a number of different forms, mostly bad. If you've followed the issue, you may have seen the list of fifty or so chemicals found in wood smoke. They all sound lethal, but it turns out that only a few are actually carcinogenic. Be aware, however, that the list is bogus because these are the chemicals that result from smoldering, not burning.

When you burn wood properly in a bright, hot, turbulent fire, what you see is the tar droplets rising off the wood into a zone of extreme heat where they re-vaporize, cracking into their basic, mostly gaseous, constituents, and oxidize. That is to say, they burn. You are left with carbon dioxide, some carbon monoxide and a number of other gases, water vapor and some not quite completely oxidized hydrocarbon bits. The bits are the particulate emissions that EPA regulates. When it comes to these sooty particulate emissions, of course, the fewer the better.

The complicated hydrocarbons that spew into the air as smoke from a smoldering wood fire are inherently unstable. And they stink. Hence their formal name: polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons. As soon as the tarry droplets exit the chimney their more volatile gases start to evaporate and their chemical make-up changes. In the scheme of things these are heavy molecules so they eventually fall to ground. There, they mix with water and soil, transforming again as they blend into the background as humus. The key point is that while wood smoke is unhealthy to breathe in high concentrations, it is not poisonous to the environment.

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So, by preburning our chunks of wood, we are removing the chance of having these nasties included in our smokes, and foods.

What about stickburners you say? Well, a stickburner is ALOT bigger as far as fires go, and have a very high firebox temp due to a large bed of coals.They also have the ability due to size to support flames within the firebox and not go overboard on temperature in the cooking chamber. No person using one loads it up with new wood and lights it with food on the grates. They get a bed going, then add splits to the fire. The amount of fresh wood added is small compared to the amount of heat and oxygen available to more fully combust the bad products mentioned above. And the sheer amount of airflow/smokeflow thru these bigger units minimizes problems with the bad stuff that does manage to survive into the smoking chamber.
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Burning wood reference- http://van.physics.uiuc.edu/qa/listing.php?id=1535

For your questions of "what does fire consist of?" There are two components to a burning wood fire: the chemical reactions in the wood itself -- you see these as "hot coals", and the flames that leap above the burning wood. Oxygen in the air combines with the starches, sugars, and cellulose and proteins in the wood to make carbon dioxide, water vapor, and a variety of other compounds, depending on what the original wood was made of. Of these remainders, those that do not burn show up after the fire has burnt out as ash and soot, or creosote (although soot is only partly burned -- it can collect in a chimney and burn later if it is not swept away). The flame is the "afterburner" of the fire -- gases released by the burning wood which are still burning continue to do so as they rise above the wood. If you extinguish the flame but leave the coals burning, often a dense cloud of smoke rises above the coals. This is the stuff that the flames are finishing off.
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The smaller units cannot develop the high temps required to do this, hence the importance of a preburn. Yes, it does lead to faster wood consumption, but remember, if you can smell smoke, you are smoking. It is human nature to expect to SEE the smoke, but it's not really required. I usually add wood after about a half hour of NOT seeing smoke.

Just some things to ponder, and all except as noted are my opinion. Any contrary or complementary evidence is cheerfully encouraged!

R.T.
 
Rich,

I usually loose concentration if I have to read a huge blog, but, let me TELL ALL THOSE INTERESTED IN IMPROVING THEIR BURNS!!!! THIS IS A MUST READ. You did a great job explaining this and even though I could not put that in words like you did, I agree with all of it!


POINTS!!!!!, uhm Rich, I dunno how to give points? Cobbler?
 
LOL... the little "scale" in the upper right corner of the post you wish to "point". And thank you for your support :{)
 
Very interesting post and must admit to ignorance on this subject. I've always just loaded the wood box on my GOSM and let it go. So this bares the question as how to effectively pre-burn the wood. Are we talking about using a propane tourch to scorch the out side of the wood or building a small fire in some type of container? How do you know when the wood is correctly pre-burned?

Lou
 
Well guess that answers about any questions about pre-burning.
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Very well done and researched, and does explain the odd tastes on some of my earlier smokes.
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Do have a question for Rich tho, would a couple of chunks pre burn enough if put in a chimney with lump charcoal. Or would it be a better idea to use two chimneys, one for lump the other for wood chunks ?

Definitley points worthy post
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I suppose as long as you get flames, and the wood charred up nicely... the chimney would work. Put the wood on top of course... maximum oxidizer <oxygen> contact for more complete combustion.

And thank you :{)
 
I use my turkey fryer with a grate or my ECB firebowl set on it. Once the wood catches well, I turn off the gas. When I see very little flame left...just kinda dancing around on top... into the pit. Of course..I have lump in there for heat too.
 
Thanks for all the info. Points for sure. I will have to check, but I think i have a book that very similar info in. "Guide to Wood Heat" I think is the name of the book I have. Will have to dig it up.

Andy
 
Richtee,

Very nicely written and informative. But now some questions from the really new . . . how would you recemmend it be done? Would putting a few chunks in a charcoal chimney with a piece of newspaper in the bottom work okay? Would you extinguish the flames at a certain point or let them die out on their own?

Thanks.

Dave

Edited: Wow, a lot of activity between the time I started typing and hit Submit Reply. It was already answered. Now that's fast.
 
Sorry to be skeptical, but was invited to dissent in Rich's first post

Reading the quoted sites, it appeared to me, that the subject was about polluting the atmosphere with wood burning as the heating source for a home. Did not read a warning about smoking or BBQ'n on either of the sites unless I missed it.

Thoughts: Preburn a chunk of wood to where it appears black before putting it in the smoker. Isn't the inside still rather "raw" and still full of the quoted "nasties"?

Preburn until the inside resembles the outside and I assume you have a chunk of lump charcoal?

I never wanted to create smoke in my smoker with lump charcoal. Guess that is why they sell chips and chunks and instruct you to toss them into a heat source (like charcoal) to burn them. Never read a mention of preburn on the bags!

Just my slant
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As I posted, I burn till very little flame is supported. Hence the "nasties" are pretty much gone. And no, you do not have a chunk of lump charcoal. Close...but Lump is produced by burning off "nasties" in an oxygen deficient atmosphere. Almost all of what burns is "cooked" out of lump. That's why no flame is seen from it, just pretty much heat. We need SOME of the stuff that burns for flavor. Or should I say a more INTENSE smoked flavor.
 
Good read Rich. Thanks for your posts. I really enjoy reading them.
OT I think I did the points thing. How do I know if I did it right?
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Thanks Mo. I don't think there's a feedback mechanisim for the points thing. You just assume they get there. That's one reason I always sign my points comments.. so folks know who they came from.
 
This is essentially what I do as well. It almost eliminates the chance of a major taste disaster (almost).

So, I agree, preburn all the way. It's the way we did whole hogs when I was a kid, but we also used only wood, no charcoal.
 
Marvin,

With all due respect, I never read a mention of baffles, smokestack extensions, tuning plates or charcoal baskets in the documentation that came with my Smoke n Pit. But experiences talked about here shows that it will work a hell of a lot better with those items.

Dave
 
Interesting info. I have never messed with this, but recently I took my charcoal GOSM and put a gas burner plate in it to attempt a conversion to propane. I used a old can from some peaches to thrown on top of the burner and put the chunks in it. They did catch on fire, so to stop that I added a old skillet on top of plate with some sand in it. This time the wood did not catch fire, but when I would check on the wood, never did get ash, but charcoal looking chunks.
Rich, would this be what I should smoke with? If I had left that wood in the can would it have eventually turned to ash??
 
It looks like pretty much what I would toss directly onto the coals now, Flash. And you'll get nothing but a bit of flame and thin blue..never the white.
 
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