1st Summer Sausage, Questions and Q-View

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Nov 20, 2012
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So I did my first run of summer sausage this weekend. Overall, the end product turned out fantastic and the whole family loved it - that is most important. Certainly learned a few things along the way and still have some questions I'm hoping you more experienced folks could answer for me. here we go.....

I was doing summer sausage, breakfast sausage and snack sticks so I needed the right uniform for such a meaty day


As I was prepping, the doorbell rang. Some nice man in a brown truck left this for me on the door step
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Venison cleaned up and cubed, ready for the grinder


2nd time using the Cabela's grinder, love this thing so far


1st grind through the coarse plate, looking good


Pork fat added and mixed up ready to go. Used the Cabela's (PS Seasonings) Summer Sausage mix


Did a 1/2 batch, all stuffed up and ready for the Warthog


Into the Warthog. A drawback of the Smokin-It smokers is that they are not tall, and I have the largest # 3 unit. I knew this going in, so stuffed my logs short on purpose so I could get them hung up without touching the unit. I used BBQ skewers through the extra casings to hang the sausages on the racks. This technique worked really well and I will be using it again. Good "low profile" way of saving vertical space while hanging in the Smokin-It units


Probes in, smoked according the the instructions on the mix recipe


Out of the smoker and into the ice bath for 20 minutes


Into the fridge overnight


Sliced. This is the piece that had the probe in it so there is a hole in the middle.


So this stuff was amazing, wife had no idea it was venison. This mix was really good, I added maybe 1 Tbs more than the match called for in the half batch based on others that said it was a little under flavored and it worked well. Smoke flavor was great, texture was good although a bit softer than the store bought SS I am used to eating.

Now for the questions. A few things I think I have figured out but am looking for confirmation, others I am baffled and am looking for some help before my next run.

First off, when cooking these things, I hit a stall that rivaled the stall on my 9lb butt I did last weekend. The SS hit about 145* -150* and would not budge! It was 3 AM before the Mav finally chirped that I had hit 156* IT.
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WOW, was NOT expecting that at all. Is this normal for SS? Lesson learned for next time, start early in the morning. Can I stuff the sausages the night before and leave in the fridge overnight and smoke the next day?

Second, when I pulled the SS out of the smoker there was what I later learned was fat between the SS and the casings in some of the logs. You could see and feel it under the casings when I pulled them off and after the water bath and subsequent over-nighter in the fridge (see pic above). I ended up taking the SS out of the casing and wiping off the fat before vac sealing. Since this was my first time stuffing, I assume that I did not stuff the casings tight enough? Some felt a bit loose, a hog clip/ring tool is definitely something I will get for next time because closing the casings up was a PITA with butcher's twine. I ended up having better luck tying off the extra casing than I did tying them off.



Next question, on 2 of logs I had a "core" form in the center. What is this, what causes it, and how do I keep this from happening. Looks terrible (tastes just fine), and I don't want this to happen again. Is this from not stuffing tight enough?


So that's all for the SS, any answers to some of the questions above would be very helpful!

Thanks for looking...
 
I let summer sausage hang out of the frigerator and let it warm to ambient temperature before placing in the smoker. I have less of a stall when doing thicker sausage because If you take the sausage out of the fridge and it is cold all the way through it will take longer to cook through as the outer thickness insulates the inside part of the sausage and it takes longer for it to reach temp in the middle...At least thats what I think and have better results over the years.

It Looks like a pocket of fat or an air pocket.. could be either one. I like to use lean meat for summer sausage 7 to 10 % fat only. I always say " use as little water as possible". for a plumper sausage....

The sausage should be stuffed tight
 
I went straight from stuffing into the pre-heated smoker, so it was not a cold log. I could see where that would be an issue though and will keep that in mind since I will most likely be stuffing the night before and smoking the next morning. The recipe called for an 80/20 lean meat/fat ratio, cutting down on the fat will help with the firmer texture and less fat between the casing and SS?
 
 
What you got there is called a fat-out. To high of a heat at start up. Sometime this happens. This is where a PID comes in handy.

The rings you have is from stuffing tube, Made from the chub moving down the tube then a stop then moving again. The fat is melted in the ring, thats called fat cavitation.

As far a s a stall, i get them also. What you can do is shock the stall by opening the door and then closing.

Joe has you on the SS hanging at room temp before going in the smoker
 
It looks like the temps might have gotten a little high causing a fat out. I have had this happen and it creates a good pool of liquid fat between the casing and sausage. As for the center I would guess that an air pocket made its way through the stuffer into the sausage. I'm no expert but thats my experience.(what little I have) As for the stall mine normaly take 8 to 10 hours to reach 152 IT. I did start some yesterday at about 12:30 ish and today at 11:30 my wife calls and tells me they are at 149. 23 hours and still not done, not sure if these will be any good or not.

John
 
Figured you would have the answers Nepas, should have just PM'ed you! I started at 100* per the directions on the mix, then it called for a bump to 110* for 4 hours. After that it called for 170* until IT was 156*. I am considering a PID, I get 20* swings from the unit cycling on/off, no biggie when doing a butt or higher temp smoke however when trying to hit a specific mark at low temps it proved aggravating. So stuff faster and fuller and that will get rid of the inner ring? Would rolling the logs a bit after stuffing help with that ring at all, my stuffing skills are, well, uh, let's just say need improvement?
 
 
It looks like the temps might have gotten a little high causing a fat out. I have had this happen and it creates a good pool of liquid fat between the casing and sausage. As for the center I would guess that an air pocket made its way through the stuffer into the sausage. I'm no expert but thats my experience.(what little I have) As for the stall mine normaly take 8 to 10 hours to reach 152 IT. I did start some yesterday at about 12:30 ish and today at 11:30 my wife calls and tells me they are at 149. 23 hours and still not done, not sure if these will be any good or not.

John
Was not expecting the stall at all, never heard it talked about before or I just missed it if it was. Now I know! Thanks for the info, glad it was not just me.
 
Figured you would have the answers Nepas, should have just PM'ed you! I started at 100* per the directions on the mix, then it called for a bump to 110* for 4 hours. After that it called for 170* until IT was 156*. I am considering a PID, I get 20* swings from the unit cycling on/off, no biggie when doing a butt or higher temp smoke however when trying to hit a specific mark at low temps it proved aggravating. So stuff faster and fuller and that will get rid of the inner ring? Would rolling the logs a bit after stuffing help with that ring at all, my stuffing skills are, well, uh, let's just say need improvement?
 
Rick is a wealth of knowledge and experience here at SMF but if we all pm'd him and dont post questions for others to give their input, others would not be able to learn from your  experiences.... Sausage makers all have had bumps in the road and there are few wrong answers. Most members post good answers derived from experiences they have endured or Posts they have read like this one...................

Joe
 
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