Family BBQ...and my ribs need more advice...

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smokeyj121

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 Hey everyone,

 I smoked a few wings, sausages and a rack of spareribs a couple days ago. 

 I had dry pork ribs twice before, so this time I hoped it would turn out better.

 The spareribs I had did not have a lot of meat on top. I could actually see the rib bones while seasoning the rack.

 Ribs seasoned and ready for the smoker


 Ribs stayed in the smoker for the first 3hrs at 250-275F.

 The surface got a bit dry, so I spritzed twice; about 20min between each time.

 Then ribs were wrapped with some of ChefJJ's foiling juice, placed in a hotter spot and cooked at the same temp range. 

 After two hours, I poked the ribs with a toothpick and they seemed hard still; so I let em stay in the smoker for another hour, checked on them once in a while.

 Another hour'd gone by, I decided to pull them out. 

 Meat was falling off the bone. The rack bent. However, the fattier side felt like butter when poked through, but the other parts felt tough still. 

 


  As you can see the meats fell off the bone, so I decided to pull the ribs out even though the meat was still tough when poked thru.

  After that, ribs were rested in foil then I refrigerated everything for a few hours as I didn't have anything in hand to hot hold food. 

  In the evening, when I pulled out from the fridge, ribs were damn dry. I was hoping after thawing they would get softer. I let the ribs thawed to room temp for 1 hour, then grilled them hot and fast while basting some honey mustard BBQ sauce.

 

 Along with the ribs, I smoked a few wings and sausages and grilled up some more asian styled wings.

 


 So far, everything was good, except for the ribs. They were dry, although flavorwise was good. 

 1. Is it because of the rack being too thin so that my ribs were dried?

 2. Can you still have dry food after cooking them in foil with some liquid??? This is the 3rd time i had dry ribs. 

 3. Did I store the ribs wrong? Did refrigerating the meat affect its texture? 

 4. This question is serious tho. To my knowledge, most of the time the stall happens at 160-165F. Have you ever experienced the stall at 170-187F? I had wrapped ribs 3 times now, and everytime, it took forever to past that range. I usually had to pull the ribs out because it was too late for dinner. I wrapped ribs after the first 3 hours, then let them stayed in foil for 2hrs. Checked: 170-180F. Then after another hour. Checked: same temp range. Poked with tookthpick: tough. Then another half an hour, maybe close to 180 here and a little past 180 there. Then another half an hour maybe 179 here and >185 there. Like seriously it took forever. 

     I thought it was my thermometer. But the poking test also said it all. Sometimes Im literally confused if I undercooked or overcooked it. Fall of the bone but still dry and tough? Like how???

 The only time I succeeded with ribs was when I smoked my beef ribs. But the ribs had a beautiful fat layer on top so I didn't even have to spritz or wrap them. I just left them in the smoker for 9hours straight, unwrapped, and they were dang good and juicy. But I never succeeded with pork ribs. 

 I know it's strange. Beef ribs or pork ribs, they should not matter if you understand the way smoking works. But I failed. A handful of times. So please let me know if I need to do anything.

 As usual, any comments, suggestion and advice are greatly appreciated...!!!
 
From what I can see your ribs were way overdone. The bones on the surface should have made you put them back. This butcher should be ashamed for selling these bones with no meat in the equation. If you have any in the future with that same situation, please cut back on the time.
 
From what I can see your ribs were way overdone. The bones on the surface should have made you put them back. This butcher should be ashamed for selling these bones with no meat in the equation. If you have any in the future with that same situation, please cut back on the time.
  Thank you JB for your comment. I actually bought a box of 6 frozen racks and that was my only choice at that moment (but yah I expected them to be better). Anyway, should I cook the ribs unwrapped for 2hrs then wrapped for 1-2hours next time? Thank you my friend.
 
Are you using a waterpan?  Ribs seem to be the one thing that doesn't go by temp but by feel with the bend test.  Check out this page with a how to on St. Louis Cut Pork Ribs.

http://bbqlove.net/2016/10/30/smoke...s-brown-sugar-love-rub-how-to-recipe-09-2016/


   I did have my water pan in the smoker all the time. Thanks for the link.
 
SJ121, I leave my ribs at 225* doing a 3-2-1 and have good results.No spritzing and no peeking,only open the smoker to remove ribs for a wrap with a few good sprays of "I can't believe it's not butter". I look at the "pull back" on the bones and don't use a thermometer. IMHO your ribs were missing some meat and most likely overcooked. I would still like a plate of your tasty looking BBQ though!
 
SJ121, I leave my ribs at 225* doing a 3-2-1 and have good results.No spritzing and no peeking,only open the smoker to remove ribs for a wrap with a few good sprays of "I can't believe it's not butter". I look at the "pull back" on the bones and don't use a thermometer. IMHO your ribs were missing some meat and most likely overcooked. I would still like a plate of your tasty looking BBQ though!

Thanks a lot CM!!! Wish you was able to taste them to give me some more advice if needed. This was not my first time smoking food but im a newbie and still learning. So any comments like yours are appreciated.
 
I usually cut down full spares into St. Louis style.  Regardless, my first question is have you verified the actual grate temp vs your built-in therm?  Other suggestions: I spritz every hour starting at hour #2. Usually smoke on low (190-200) for the first hour then bump to 225-240.  I start testing for good bend & break around 4-41/2 hours then every 30 min until it occurs at which time they are sauced and left to setup for another 30 min. Then pulled.  Note: I haven't wrapped now for many years.
 
Rely on the bend test, when picking up the ribs with tongs they should bend to a 90 degree angle and start to break slightly
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I never foil ribs. I only cook baby backs from Costco. They are Swifts Premium and are baby loin back ribs. They have an extra portion of loin left on them and are very meaty. There are 3 racks in a Cryovac. I smoke my ribs 3 to 3-1/2 hours at 250-275* and the bend is slightly less than 90*. I then sauce/glaze them twice for 15 minutes each time. I take them off and let them rest for about 30 minutes tented with foil.

I don't cook spares, but I would say that another hour would suffice. Check them with the bend test. But, I still wouldn't foil them. I think it overlooks the ribs. And makes them mushy.

Good luck and good smokin', Joe. :grilling_smilie:
 
I would verify your therm is accurately measuring the smoker temp. Next, you need a thermocouple probe to measure Rib IT, especially ribs that are not meaty. The average bi-metal probe ain't going to cut it. I am thinking you need to find a different source for ribs. I have made hundreds of pounds of ribs for family and catering gigs, using 3-2-1 at 225-235 and my foiling juice. I have never had more than the thin small end ribs, of uncut spare ribs racks, get dry and most of the time I square up to St. Louis Racks and pull those little ribs as a snack at the 2-3 hour mark, the rest come out great...JJ


Nothing  Dry about these...

 
"2. Can you still have dry food after cooking them in foil with some liquid??? This is the 3rd time i had dry ribs." - Are you ensuring the ribs are wrapped tightly and no steam escaping from the top. If I foil, I always use 2 rolls so the meat is sealed tight and prevent  liquid leaks.
 
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Ribs were way thin. That's a tough break. But 250-275 is way high in my opinion. I'm sure the hot and fast guys will disagree but I'd use the 3-2-1 method on your next slab at 225-235 degrees. I've tried a lot of ways and this is my go to when people are eating off my smoker. Well over 100 racks successfully done this way. Good luck
 
Yes, the 3-2-1 method is for cooking at the lower temps. I just like to offer my alternative way. I've had a lot of success with ribs using the higher temps. I think more folks are getting away from the age-old 225* rule.
 
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