which pellet smoker would best replace a standard BBQ Grill

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eichhoma

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so, for smoking, i'm an offset stick burner kind of guy but I keep a gas grill on my deck that I use for steaks, burgers, brats, etc.... its in need of being replaced and these pellet grills have really captured my attention. I love the idea of getting smoke flavor from them, but i wouldnt do much real smoking on one like briskets, pork butts, etc, I would do those on my offset... so, what would you all recommend for as far as replacing my grill with a pellet that would do my day to day grilling best? Thanks in advance!
 
What are you going to use it for, smoking only or grilling as well. I have researched these for awhile before I bought mine. Price was part of it and the ability to sear meats was a big feature I was looking for. I ended up going with Pit boss. I haven't seen a rec tec dealer around or anyone that sells yoder so I was unable to compare thode. GMG, Louisiana / Pit boss (same factory sister companies) and traeger were the main ones up here.
I am more than happy with mine, I bought 1 for home and then 1 for work. One of the best purchases I have made.
 
all I am really going to use it for is high heat grilling; steaks, burgers, chops brats, etc.... but I like the idea of infusing some wood smoke to it as well hence why I am looking at pellet smokers... but I dont know much about them. If they take forever to get really hot, or dont get to a good steak searing temp, then I probably need to stick with a high quality gas grill - natural gas, no propane... I have a big offset stick burner I do ong smokes with so I wouldnt use a pellet for that type of thing...hope that extra info is helpful
 
From my experiernce I can get the pit boss up to 475-500. slide the sear plate over and sear away. I use it 10-1 over my gas grill. smoke flavor added to the food is so much better. They don't take long to heat up, the element starts the pellets burning and the fan keeps the fire going. You do need power, I always take my gen when we are camping out or at hunting camp anyway
 
Ran the Austin at high temp yesterday to burn off 2 smokes worth of grease, 625 setting out in the sun, that was lid thermometer , digital said 515 , she dusted the grease lol about 3 good steaks is what I can sear at 1 time over the open flames, suits us as most of the time its just the wife and I , i hit them on smoke mode 30 min open the slide and turn to high and let it rip
 
all I am really going to use it for is high heat grilling; steaks, burgers, chops brats, etc.... but I like the idea of infusing some wood smoke to it as well hence why I am looking at pellet smokers... but I dont know much about them.

When you say "high heat grilling", how high are you talking about?

Some of it is going to depend on how hot you like to go for searing your steaks.

If you're talking about searing steaks at higher temperatures, well then forget my recommendations for the Rec Tec. Personally, and depending upon how hot you want to sear, and how quickly you want to get to your desired searing temperature, for searing steaks, I'd probably skip the pellet grills altogether.

For searing steaks, I'd recommend a good Kamado or even a Weber Kettle and cast iron grates.

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You can't see the red dot. But I am hitting the metal of the griddle in the one pic, and the metal of the grate in the other. The lump charcoal itself, is even hotter.

You mention that you are interested in "wood smoke" for your steaks.

At higher temperatures, pellets don't give off much wood smoke flavor.

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If they take forever to get really hot, or dont get to a good steak searing temp, then I probably need to stick with a high quality gas grill - natural gas, no propane... I have a big offset stick burner I do ong smokes with so I wouldnt use a pellet for that type of thing...hope that extra info is helpful

Some of what you're describing is going to depend on what you consider to be a "good steak searing temp", and what you consider to be "really hot".

Certainly you can sear a steak at less than the 990°-1,000° F that I like to sear at, and I am achieving in these pics. But it will take a little bit longer. And to me, the taste of a steak seared at the temps that I like to sear at is different to my taste, than one seared at a temp considerably lower than that.

Needless to say, I don't use my pellet grill for searing my steaks, because I like to sear my steaks at temperatures at or around 1000° at the cooking surface, whether I'm using my grates or my griddle.

So if you are interested in searing your steaks at the kind of temperatures shown here, then first off, it's unlikely that you'll reach them with the pellet grill recommendations that you've gotten in this thread thus far.

And secondly, at searing temperatures that the typical pellet grill reaches, pellets don't give off much of a smoke flavor. The hotter you go, the less smoke flavor you'll get.

If you need to go even hotter for your searing needs, well then there are cookers that will go well beyond even the temps that I am showing in my pics that you may want to consider.

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For high heat a Kettle will do the trick, for extremely high heat then the Kettle Vortex combo is my go-to.

Chris
 
No tool does everything perfectly. Charcoal does it but takes time. Gas does it and is fast and no fuss but no wood flavor.

I have an older SS Jenn Air gas grill and it was time to replace the burners. Mine needed 3 but wanted to try something different on one. I did some digging and found a infrared sear burner that fit mine. HUGE improvement and pro quality sear. $100... That said, going to try a Northfire Inferno when I have some parlay money. That is a salamander style broiler like Peter Luger etc use. All this being said, a $50 cajun cooker and a good pan will put a wicked good sear on chops much better than your average grill. Keep a fire extinguisher handy, seriously.
 
so which open flame gets hotter? reckon a fan forced flame might be a little hotter? lot of choices and test drive somebody's pellet smoker before you buy 1 or don't buy 1, would you buy a car without driving 1 first? ,I don't think a ceramic grill will get hotter than a Weber will it? if so how? same fuel no other fans running or not? wish I was rich I'd have 1 of every thing and 2 of the ones I liked the best lol
 
Oh and its fun to spend other folks $ but not without a test drive
 
... ,I don't think a ceramic grill will get hotter than a Weber will it? if so how? same fuel no other fans running or not? wish I was rich I'd have 1 of every thing and 2 of the ones I liked the best lol

I suspect that a ceramic will get considerably hotter than a Weber. But you'll reach a point where temps as dangerously hot and of absolutely no use for cooking.

Sa as an actual matter, yes, ceramics likely will. But as a practical matter, you get to "what's the point?".

I get Kamado hot, and have pegged it on too many occasions to count. This makes me go through gaskets quicker of course. Changing them sometimes three times in a season. But I never take steps to get it hotter at the dome than it is designed for.

When I first started experimenting with lump charcoal, which burns considerably hotter than briquets, I was using it in a Weber Kettle, even though Weber recommends against using lump charcoal in their grills. At least at the time that I was using it.

I was using lump charcoal, in a 26 in weber kettle, and using a WSM fire ring to contain the coals, and cast iron grates made to fit Weber Kettles.

What I discovered was the while lump could be used in a kettle for high temps, I would routinely peg the Kettle's stock dome thermometer, which is nowhere near the 900° F that my Kamado Joe tops out at. I don't know what temps I was reaching at the dome, but I doubt that it was the 900° F that I can easily reach on my Kamado Joe at the dome.

Secondly, I could get the Kettle so hot, that it became difficult to remove the lid without burning my knuckles as I grabbed the lid handle. This required the use of leather gloves, same as I use for high temps in my Kamado Joe, and burping the lid first.

Thirdly, I ended up causing crazing and spider web cracks in the enamel of the Weber Kettle's bowl due to the high heat created by opening the bottom and top vents of the kettle and letting the lump get up as hot as I could get it.

Finally, the cast iron grates that I had for the Weber, were not as thick as the cast iron that I use in my Kamado. I ended up with those cast iron grates eventually breaking from the multiple high heat cycles.

The above is dangerous, and I do not recommend burning lump charcoal in a Weber.

This led me to get the Kamado.

A Kamado, being made of clay, can tolerate extreme heat.

The bottom vent open fully, and the top vent opened fully, creates a natural updraft which stokes lump charcoal like nobody's business.

The ceramic, acts similar to a kiln and traps heat itself, much better than metal does.

All of that said, I've seen images of people doing what I would consider out stupid and downright dangerous things with Kamados, that ought never be done, such as taking leaf blowers and pointing them at the bottom vent in an attempt to force cooler air into the bottom of them and raise the heat even higher.



I even saw one guy attach about a 1 foot flue to the top of his Big Green Egg, in an attempt to make it draw in cooler air from the bottom and raise his temps quickly.



He's hitting 750°F in about 5 minutes. Definitely NOT something that I would recommend.

So yeah, I would expect a Kamado to have the capability of getting much hotter than a kettle.
 
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