I'm gonna have to throw this in at ya. On both of these you posted that they didn't reach over 140 degrees until 6 hours of smoking. Take this as a curiousity kind of question but aren't you worried about stayin in the 40 - 140 in 4 hours or less rule of thumb? What temps are you smoking at? I would personally want to get that meat to 140 in 4 hours or less. If your goin by the temp on the gauge on the lid, you may want to double check it to make sure your really at that temp. They look fantastic but I would have concern about the safety issue. Help me out with this.