Pork Shoulder Issues

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smoker34

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Aug 17, 2012
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Northern New Jersey
I've read and learned a great deal on this forum and it seems this is the best resource for smoking information.  I would appreciate some advice, please.

Up until a couple months ago, I've only done smoking on my Weber Genesis propane grill, and have had much success.  I've done ribs, chicken and pork shoulder in this manner.  Recently, I purchased the Camp Chef 24" propane smoker and have used it quite a few times with variable success.  Ribs, fatties and whole chickens have proceeded without issues and the results have been good.  However, the last three weekends, I've smoked pork shoulder (one picnic and two butts) and have time and temperature issues.  Regarding the pork shoulder, I do a dry rub the night before and put it in the refrigerator overnight.  The picnic was 10 lbs. and each butt was 6 lbs. (each was cooked separately on different days).  My problem is with the length of time to get the pork to 200 degrees for pulling.  As a matter of fact, all three pieces of pork have gone way over two hours per pound and I have only been able to get the internal temperature to as high as 190 (again, this took a lot longer than two hours per pound).  I initially tried to keep the smoker temperature at around 225, but after the first disaster, I let the next two cook between 225 and 250.  I'm using a Maverick dual-temperature digital thermometer, which I have checked for accuracy in boiling water.  I have also used a classic metal thermometer to confirm the accuracy of my Maverick, and the readings are essentially the same.  I've tried taking the meat out of the refrigerator early; made no difference.  I've tried foiling at 165 degrees; made no difference.  I put the barbecue temperature probe as close as I can get it to the meat.  I've cooked on different shelves of the smoker; made no difference.  I just cannot get the internal meat temperature to 200 degrees within any reasonable time frame.  I do realize that the meat temperature stalls and each piece of meat can be very different, but what I am experiencing does not seem reasonable.  Here's what I did with yesterday's 6 lb. butt:

Dry rub the night before; took out of refrigerator at 4:00 AM; pre-heated smoker; filled water tray and chip tray; started smoking at 6:20 AM.  After the internal meat temperature reached 100 degrees, I sprayed with apple juice/bourbon/spices mixture every hour or hour and a half; I checked chip tray and water tray at each spray interval and refilled as necessary; I foil-wrapped the butt when internal temperature reached 165, and added some of my mop spray in the foil; kept bbq temperature around 240-250 after foiling.  Finally reached 190 degrees at around 8:30 PM, more than 14 hours after I started.  Having had enough, I took it out of the smoker, let it sit for an hour.  It pulled easily, the bone fell out and the meat was moist.  So although the results were good this time (not as good the two times before), why does it take me so long to reach a "pullable" temperature and why can I not reach the recommended 200-205 degrees pulling temperature that everyone else seems to do?  

I appreciate any help.

Thanks
 
I have a GOSM propane smoker and I find I have the same results, 2 hours + per pound for butts or picnics. The last two times I've smoked them I did two 9#'ers at the same time and they went 20 hours and only got to 190*. Very tender and juicy and just fell apart. I smoke them at 230*-240* and never open the door until at least 6 hours in and then just long enough to insert my temp probe then keep it closed until they get over 180*. I don't spritz, mop or anything and use sand in the water pan with a dry smoke chamber.

I have read so many threads on here and am beginning to believe that charcoal or stick burners cook faster than gassers or electrics at the same chamber temp. I don't understand it but it sure seems like it from all I have read.

I know one thing that can help you is to keep the door shut! Don't open it every hour, when you do you can add 10-15 minutes to the cook time every time you do. I used to spritz but have found in my experience it doesn't really do anything to the meat and from what I have read in these threads it can actually dry it out some:

http://www.smokingmeatforums.com/t/...n-gourmet-w-dry-smoke-chamber-q-view-finished

http://www.smokingmeatforums.com/t/...mmed-butt-wet-dry-smoke-chamber-q-view-method

I am a true believer in the "dry smoke chamber" and it has produced some of the best PP I have ever done. 

I have just resigned to the fact they are going to take at least 2 hours per pound and I just stay patient let them smoke!
 
Thanks for the advice.  Why the sand?  If you're going to do it dry, why not just leave it as is or take out the water pan?  
 
I am with Dave on this one. Pork is done when it decides it is done and not a minute sooner.  Sometimes they are just stubborn and I would not be the first guy who ( because of time and hungry people) has pulled a butt or shoulder in the middle of a stall and put it in the oven at 300 to either get it moving or to finish it. 

The idea behind the sand in the water pan is that it acts as a heat sync 
 
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