Planning ahead - Upgrade to Sausage Making Equipment

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Planning on making the purchase in February, but wanting to get my ducks in a row beforehand.

Current equipment:
No Mixer
Weston 5# manual stuffer - Manual is too hard on the old shoulder
Lem #8 grinder (only 1/2 or 1/2 hp) It's circuit breaker trips at times.

This is what I'm thinking of getting:
Vevor 30# Mixer with motor
Lem 20# electric stuffer
Cabela's #22 (1hp) Grinder & foot pedal

Wondering if anyone has options that may be better than what I've listed...

Pretty well set on the Cabela's grinder. Just looks beefier.
I'll need a sky hook though. It weight 68#.

Would like another good option for the Lem Stuffer. Not a fan of the $900 price tag.

TIA
 
I typically make 15-18# at a time.
Next Vevor mixer down it the 15# one.
Reviews say putting max in is a bit more than you can mix.
Besides, it was only $25 more.
 
Planning on making the purchase in February, but wanting to get my ducks in a row beforehand.

Current equipment:
No Mixer
Weston 5# manual stuffer - Manual is too hard on the old shoulder
Lem #8 grinder (only 1/2 or 1/2 hp) It's circuit breaker trips at times.

This is what I'm thinking of getting:
Vevor 30# Mixer with motor
Lem 20# electric stuffer
Cabela's #22 (1hp) Grinder & foot pedal

Wondering if anyone has options that may be better than what I've listed...

Pretty well set on the Cabela's grinder. Just looks beefier.
I'll need a sky hook though. It weight 68#.

Would like another good option for the Lem Stuffer. Not a fan of the $900 price tag.

TIA
The Cabelas 1hp is great. Mine is at least 6 yrs old. No problems. Just smiles when I use it.
 
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I typically make 15-18# at a time.
Next Vevor mixer down it the 15# one.
Reviews say putting max in is a bit more than you can mix.
Besides, it was only $25 more.
Those are some big machines.

I cannot speak to the Vevor 30# mixer but I once had a "20lbs" hand crank box mixer and used it about 3-4 times, it only fit about 17 actual pounds of meat. Worst meat processing item I ever bought so I ended up just moving a using a rectangular cooler with a high power drill and a long mud mixer paddle bit. This was way way way better but I rarely break that out unless I'm mixing over 40 pounds of sausage. These days if I do 40 pounds it's usually 2 different types of sausage (20lbs each) and I've found it to be easier to just hand mix 20 pound batches or less.

Why was the box mixer no good for me? The cleaning was a nightmare AND it couldn't even fit the 20 pound batches of sausage I was working with.
As for mixing, it worked well but it couldn't match the capacity I needed AND I spent more time cleaning than it was ever worth.

I myself just upgraded to a 3/4 horse power Weston Pro #8 grinder that I have yet to use. It's rated for 4-6 pounds of meat per minute which is way way way faster than I can work as a 1 man or even with a 2 man operation. I used to have an older smaller Warring Pro 500w grinder that has been fine for many years but I gave it to my brother as a gift and took the opportunity to upgrade a little.
This Weston #8 is as big as I want to go and is 38.5 pounds. I just don't have room to be storing or housing something bigger and I did enough research to land on this one for all the important functional pieces and behaviors like all steel gears, reverse, and plenty of reports of not heating up when grinding while also being easy to clean.

I'm with you 100% on cranking those higher pound stuffers. I have a manual one that holds about 22 pounds of meat BUT I cannot work it as one person when stuffing sausage. It take grown ass man strength of 1 person to crank and a 2nd person to feed and work the sausage as it's being stuffed. This lead me to buy a 7 pound Hakka stuffer so I could easily do 5 pound batches as a 1 person operation. I would love a 10 pound LEM.
I fantasize about a 20 or 30 pound pound automated stuffer so i can get 20 pound batches done in 1 go but again due to size, weight and storage limitations I would likely have to settle on the 10 pound automated. Honestly as long as it's automated a 10 pound motorized stuffer would likely work fast enough for my applications even though I'd have to load it multiple times.

For context. In the past I'd do 150-250 pounds of sausage stuffing each year after my big yearly hunting trip with my brother. This has been anywhere from 5 animals to 14 animals all processed at once so this was the main scale of my operation with the equipment I have/had.

The mixer was just not worth it even working those volumes. I moved to the drill + cooler/bucket + longest mud mixing paddle I could find and Mix 10 -15 pounds of sausage at a time with ease. 15+ is a little bitt too much meat for the drill and paddle to be moving all at once but it makes fast work of mixing

The 22 pound stuffer was worth every penny in speed savings but is a 2 person machine so for 1 person jobs doing no more than 40 pounds of sausage I use the 7 pound manual Hakka stuffer.

The little 2-4 pound a minute grinder worked perfectly fine but now I'm even faster. We would cut meat and fat at the same time while feeding the grinder and never had to wait on the grinder, so with my bigger more powerful grinder I suspect me and my brother cutting meat will continue to be the bottle neck of grinding.

So in conclusion after typing up a giant post.

I think you are fine on the grinder upgrade since your is tripping the breaker anyhow, and I see nothing wrong with the 20 pound motorized stuffer, just don't expect it to actually fit 20 pounds, more like 17 pounds is my guess but that won't be an issue since the benefit is not having to crank on the thing. Refills should be a trivial issue and not take up much more time.

I would seriously encourage more thought on the mixer. Out of curiosity I googled the Vevor 30lbs mixer and of the 11 reviews 2 spoke about difficulty of cleaning with details that match my experience, while 2 mention that it was easy to clean but no details on cleaning.
indaswamp indaswamp maybe you can weigh in on meat mixing in a cooler with a big paddle that looks like a boat ore. I do the drill and mud mixing paddle BUT with how powerful the drill is you have to use caution and not fling meat all over the place and not destroy the cooler hahaha. Your approach might be a perfect middle ground :D
 
Yes, we do 100# at a time in a 120qt. ice chest. I use a stainless steel ladle which is common around here with all the jambalaya cooking and seafood boiling. Best way to do it is to flip evenly, then use the paddle like a blade and rip it through the meat paste, them flip again. pulling the blade edge through the meat paste acts like the blades of a meat mixer. Just keep flipping, stirring , and ripping until it comes together...it will get tight.
 
Yes, we do 100# at a time in a 120qt. ice chest. I use a stainless steel ladle which is common around here with all the jambalaya cooking and seafood boiling. Best way to do it is to flip evenly, then use the paddle like a blade and rip it through the meat paste, them flip again. pulling the blade edge through the meat paste acts like the blades of a meat mixer. Just keep flipping, stirring , and ripping until it comes together...it will get tight.
If 1 man is doing this on 100 pounds, how long do you think it takes to get a good mix at a comfortable pace?
Asking out of curiosity.
 
If you are planning on getting the 1hp Cabela's grinder see if they offer a mixer that hooks right up to the grinder, thus being the motor for the mixer. I have the 1hp Cabela's grinder, about 11 years old now with 40ish pound mixer, also Cabela's that hooks up to it. Yes, even the foot pedal.

I grind and mix 25lbs of meat in batches every year. Depending on how the yearly hunt goes that would be anywhere from 50-200 lbs every year. Usually just me and the wife. Takes longer to de-bone the deer and/or elk than it does to grind and mix.

I do have an 11 pound manual stuff that I have never used...yet. Also Cabela's. Used to work there and took advantage of my store discount. The sausage we make is bulk style, as in from the mixer into quart freezer bags into the freezer. We do the same thing with the scraps for the dog but in sandwich bags. 1 1/4lbs for the sausage, 1/2lb for the dog.

My wife is very creative with the bulk sausage, hence why I haven't used the stuffer.
 
Those are some big machines.

I'm with you 100% on cranking those higher pound stuffers. I have a manual one that holds about 22 pounds of meat BUT I cannot work it as one person when stuffing sausage. It take grown ass man strength of 1 person to crank and a 2nd person to feed and work the sausage as it's being stuffed. This lead me to buy a 7 pound Hakka stuffer so I could easily do 5 pound batches as a 1 person operation. I would love a 10 pound LEM.

I think you are fine on the grinder upgrade since your is tripping the breaker anyhow, and I see nothing wrong with the 20 pound motorized stuffer, just don't expect it to actually fit 20 pounds, more like 17 pounds is my guess but that won't be an issue since the benefit is not having to crank on the thing. Refills should be a trivial issue and not take up much more time.

I would seriously encourage more thought on the mixer. Out of curiosity I googled the Vevor 30lbs mixer and of the 11 reviews 2 spoke about difficulty of cleaning with details that match my experience, while 2 mention that it was easy to clean but no details on cleaning.

Guess I could have mentioned the reason for pending purchases.
I have bone on bone in my shoulders, so hand cranking of any kind is out of the question.
Also, carpal tunnel rules out hand mixing.

Not too worried about the cleaning aspect.

If you are planning on getting the 1hp Cabela's grinder see if they offer a mixer that hooks right up to the grinder, thus being the motor for the mixer. I have the 1hp Cabela's grinder, about 11 years old now with 40ish pound mixer, also Cabela's that hooks up to it. Yes, even the foot pedal.
Thanks, I'll check that out.
 
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Also, carpal tunnel rules out hand mixing.
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I have bone on bone in my shoulders, so hand cranking of any kind is out of the question.
Also, carpal tunnel rules out hand mixing.
I HAD THE CABELAS 1HP GRINDER ALONG WITH THEIR MOTORIZED 20LB STUFFER AND MIXER FOR OVER 20 YEARS, NEVER A PROBLEM. AFTER BEING A UNION CARPENTER AND SCRATCH GOLFER FOR OVER THIRTY YEARS BOTH SHOULDERS WERE BONE ON BONE. THE PAIN GETS BAD, TO WHERE THE SHOULDERS THROB WITHOUT MOVING A MUSCLE, CAN'T SLEEP AT NIGHT. THE SHOTS WORK FOR A FEW YEARS BUT THE EFFECTIVNESS SHORTENS OVER TIME TO WHERE THEY ONLY LAST A FEW DAYS INSTEAD OF A FEW MONTHS. I FINALLY HAD TO GET FULL REVERSE REPLACEMENT SURGERY ON BOTH SHOULDERS, ONE AFTER THE OTHER A YEAR APART. THE SURGERY GETS RID OF THE PAIN WELL ENOUGH BUT WILL LIMIT HOW MUCH A MAN CAN LIFT. BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR BRUCE! I SOLD ALL MY SAUSAGE MAKING GEAR FOR DIRT CHEAP, THEN BOUGHT A LITTLE GRINDER AND STUFFER. LONG STORY SHORTENED UP SOME, I DON'T MAKE SAUSAGE ANYMORE THO I DO GET USE FROM THE LITTLE GRINDER TO MAKE BURGER MEAT. THE PAIN WILL BE YOUR GUIDELINE AS TO HOW LONG YOU CAN GO, BUT IT NEVER STOPS AND ONLY GETS WORSE. I'M NOT TRYING TO POP YOUR BALLOON, JUST SHEDDING A LITTLE LIGHT ON WHAT MAY BE IN STORE DOWN THE ROAD BRUCE. WISH YOU THE BEST, LIFE GOES ON, THINK HARD BEFORE YOU BUY. THE PICS ARE JUST SO YOU CAN SEE I'M NOT B-S-ING YOU, AND YEAH, I MISS MAKING SAUSAGE, I WAS PRETTY DARNED GOOD AT IT. RAY

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Guess I could have mentioned the reason for pending purchases.
I have bone on bone in my shoulders, so hand cranking of any kind is out of the question.
Also, carpal tunnel rules out hand mixing.

Not too worried about the cleaning aspect.


Thanks, I'll check that out.
Ah thanks for the insight. Yeah then motorize it all and cleaning is less of a pain then the physical pain for sure :D
 
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I have the LEM 20# electric stuffer. Love it. I would also look into Hakka Bros equipment. I don't own any but hear a lot of good things about them.
 
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Everyone sees things their own way. My thought is if you are already having trouble from bone on bone and really can’t do the manual machine, then the shear weight of the equipment actually then comes to play. It’s a great thought to buy big machines that are automatic so you can do a “one and done” on 20# of sausage, but then you have to move those machines in and out to store and use them. Next year will likely be harder than this year.

As an example, BGKYSmoker BGKYSmoker (Rick) is a master sausage maker here. He bought a 30# LEM electric stuffer, I think only used it a few times, stored it and sold it. Why? Because it’s just to heavy to move around. That is a big consideration I think.

Going motorized is a great move, but maybe keeping thing smaller equipment wise is something to be considered. It would be nice to have everything stored on rolling carts to move in and out of storage, but unless that possible, then slightly smaller equipment that is lighter and more manageable might be a consideration.

Another thing I’ll mention that can help match your recipe to the stuffer size.

Stuffers are sized by poundage, but everyone knows that a 20# stuffer won’t hold 20# of meat, answer, up size the stuffer. So now you use a 30# stuffer to stuff 20# batches. I get that logic.

Here is another option, that’s better in my opinion. Adjust you batches into Kg instead of pounds. One Kg is equal to 2.2# meat. So a 5# stuffer won’t hold a 5# batch, but it will hold 2Kg (which is 4.4#) pretty dang close. The 10# will hold 4Kg (8.8#) The 20# stuffer may not hold 9Kg but it will hold 8Kg (17.6#) 30# stuffer can hold 13Kg (28.6#)

So again by switching to metric you can make it work very closely. Also it’s easier to weigh out ingredients by gram, but if cups and spoons is your way, then as you can see very little adjustment is needed to nail the recipe.

Just some random thoughts to chew on Bruce.
 
Thanks for the ideas Eric.
I had planned for heavy items already.
I have a cart in my pantry, for the heavy/big stuff, so a short lift time.

I do grams for 99% of things. Gradually converting recipes that that are not.

As for shoulder, not to pain level yet, more like a bad ache in right, and just an ache in left.
Which is strange, since I'm left handed.

It is the repetitive motion that is the problem and causes some pain. Cranking handle, etc.
 
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Everyone sees things their own way. My thought is if you are already having trouble from bone on bone and really can’t do the manual machine, then the shear weight of the equipment actually then comes to play. It’s a great thought to buy big machines that are automatic so you can do a “one and done” on 20# of sausage, but then you have to move those machines in and out to store and use them. Next year will likely be harder than this year.

As an example, BGKYSmoker BGKYSmoker (Rick) is a master sausage maker here. He bought a 30# LEM electric stuffer, I think only used it a few times, stored it and sold it. Why? Because it’s just to heavy to move around. That is a big consideration I think.

Going motorized is a great move, but maybe keeping thing smaller equipment wise is something to be considered. It would be nice to have everything stored on rolling carts to move in and out of storage, but unless that possible, then slightly smaller equipment that is lighter and more manageable might be a consideration.

Another thing I’ll mention that can help match your recipe to the stuffer size.

Stuffers are sized by poundage, but everyone knows that a 20# stuffer won’t hold 20# of meat, answer, up size the stuffer. So now you use a 30# stuffer to stuff 20# batches. I get that logic.

Here is another option, that’s better in my opinion. Adjust you batches into Kg instead of pounds. One Kg is equal to 2.2# meat. So a 5# stuffer won’t hold a 5# batch, but it will hold 2Kg (which is 4.4#) pretty dang close. The 10# will hold 4Kg (8.8#) The 20# stuffer may not hold 9Kg but it will hold 8Kg (17.6#) 30# stuffer can hold 13Kg (28.6#)

So again by switching to metric you can make it work very closely. Also it’s easier to weigh out ingredients by gram, but if cups and spoons is your way, then as you can see very little adjustment is needed to nail the recipe.

Just some random thoughts to chew on Bruce.
I agree about moving the equipment. When I finish the cooking area in my garage, I have a bench set up for the electric stuffer and grinder. Between uses I will keep them covered.
 
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