Gas Prices???

[forktender]

Had to fill up yesterday in so Cal. $60 gave me 12.7 gallons. $4.69/gallon cash.

I live less than 5 miles away from four refineries, you'd think they would give us a discount for the short delivery distance, and breathing all the crap they spew 24-7, but hell no.
Our gas is some of the highest in the area. I paid $4.78 a gal. for regular yesterday....THANKS a bunch, Newscum!!!

 

[Smokin Okie]

Grok AI on " carbob " gasoline. This, which is a big part of why Cali is an isolated market, is why gasoline is more expensive in Cali. Along with new regs on refineries that's behind the refineries leaving the state. They won't stay where they're not wanted.

This planned pipeline is a big deal. Its going to open the Cali market to other refineries in this part of the country. Its not a large amount of gasoline, but its something. It breaks precedent.

And still, I'll be somewhat surprised if it ever happens. The 2028 presidential election and environmental groups challenging in court will be obstacles .

CARBOB gasoline refers to California Reformulated Gasoline Blendstock for Oxygenate Blending, a specialized petroleum-based component used in producing reformulated gasoline for the state of California. It's designed to meet California's strict environmental standards under the California Air Resources Board (CARB) regulations, which aim to reduce air pollution from vehicle emissions.

Key Characteristics:​

• Composition: CARBOB is a blendstock (not finished gasoline) that's typically mixed with 10% ethanol at fuel terminals to create E10 reformulated gasoline. It must comply with low limits on sulfur (≤10 ppm), benzene (≤0.8 vol%), and other aromatics, while containing 3.3–3.7 wt% oxygen after blending.
• Differences from Other Gasolines: Unlike the national standard RBOB (Reformulated Blendstock for Oxygenate Blending) or conventional gasoline, CARBOB has unique formulations tailored for California's climate and emission rules, making it more expensive to produce and often leading to higher pump prices in the state.
• Production and Supply: Only a few U.S. refineries (mostly in California) produce CARBOB, and supply can be tight due to refinery closures or shifts to renewables, contributing to price volatility.

CARBOB ensures finished gasoline meets Phase 3 reformulated standards, promoting cleaner burning fuel in one of the world's largest gasoline markets.

 

[jcam222]

Here in Ohio the price has been running from $2.76 to $3.10 a gallon. The price jump between the two often happens overnight.

 

[mneeley490]

Still $4.79 at some stations near me, north of Seattle.

 

[sandyut]

$3.15 Near me been there for a long time +/- $.25.

If I drive 40 minutes down to the big city it can be $.20-$.80 less per gallon.

 

[clifish]

$2.79 here at costco, last week in PA was $3.30

 

[sandyut]

$2.79 here at costco, last week in PA was $3.30

Very similar to what we see here at Conifer vs Lakewood. Its not worth the drive to just fill up, but when ever a Costco run is needed, im topping off almost regardless.

 

[clifish]

Very similar to what we see here at Conifer vs Lakewood. Its not worth the drive to just fill up, but when ever a Costco run is needed, im topping off almost regardless.

Luckily the costco in NY is near my main house. When we go to the PA house, I only fill up enough to get me home.

 

[02ebz06]

Not my concern - all electric.

 

[chopsaw]

The price jump between the two often happens overnight.

Some of that depends on the delivery , and if the price went up or down with the next load compared to what's already in the ground .