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[smokin peachey]

Gotcha. I've got no experience running a site or knowledge of how it all works, beyond Ads = revenue. Aren't the hits worth something because of the ads on the site? Company X says they will pay you some amount of money based on number of hits on your site for running their ad? Genuinely asking as this is not my area of expertise.

What poem format
can you explain what you mean
sorry in advance



also genuinely sorry for that Haiku attempt

How about this poem?
Roses are red
Violets are blue
Not smoking meat every week will make you blue to!!
Enjoy your favorite brew
And some bbq!

 

[Misplaced Nebraskan]

How about this poem?
Roses are red
Violets are blue
Not smoking meat every week will make you blue to!!
Enjoy your favorite brew
And some bbq!

 

[TulsaJeff]

Thank you for the feedback.. positive or negative, it's what I want and gives me insight into what the members are thinking.

I can't fix everything but I do what I can when I can as much as I can.

I can certainly appreciate the dislike for ads.. for what it's worth, I'm not sure how some websites make money from simple page hits as was mentioned. Never has worked for me. No ads.. no money.

We ONLY see money when we run ads and when members pay a small fee for a premier membership.

For those who want to pay a small fee, I am happy to turn those ads off for you. It's the least I can do. It's not pay to play. It's more like you donated to help pay the bills and I want to do something for you in return.

I do leave the ads on for myself although I have the option to turn them off if I want to. I do not.

Click HERE to turn the ads off for yourself. It is GREATLY appreciated!!

Let me know if you have further questions about this.

 

[forktender]

Gotcha. I've got no experience running a site or knowledge of how it all works, beyond Ads = revenue. Aren't the hits worth something because of the ads on the site? Company X says they will pay you some amount of money based on number of hits on your site for running their ad? Genuinely asking as this is not my area of expertise.

What poem format
can you explain what you mean
sorry in advance



also genuinely sorry for that Haiku attempt

The money advertisers/ Google are willing to pay is based on the number of hits.

I've added screenshots of what I mean by poem form.

Format problem has been the same for 3 weeks now, which clearly shows that the IT team needs outside help.

Any updates?

 

[TulsaJeff]

The money advertisers/ Google are willing to pay is based on the number of hits.

I've added screenshots of what I mean by poem form.

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Format problem has been the same for 3 weeks now, which clearly shows that the IT team needs outside help.

Any updates?

Our internal IT team maintains the day today stuff however the formatting problem is part of the theme which we paid an outside developer to do for us. We are in the queue to have this fixed… hopefully very soon.

I understand your pain--it’s aggravating the snot out of me as well.

 

[forktender]

I'm sure it is a coding pro

You will not see any ads being a paid member.

Yes we understand that but how do you expect this site to grow and maintain its health if new people browsing the net can not even read what this site is all about.
Ads covering text is ridiculous and not a good marketing strategy, now is it?

As I explained in another post I refuse to pay to view a site unless there are special forums that nonpaying browsers are not able to read, looser moderation or something along those lines. If a forum can't maintain health with the funds Google pays them to run "their" ads it's their own fault for living beyond their means or being greedy, it really is as simple as that. There are thousands of much larger forums on the web that operate on very little costs.

 

[TulsaJeff]

I'm sure it is a coding pro

Yes we understand that but how do you expect this site to grow and maintain its health if new people browsing the net can not even read what this site is all about.
Ads covering text is ridiculous and not a good marketing strategy, now is it?

As I explained in another post I refuse to pay to view a site unless there are special forums that nonpaying browsers are not able to read, looser moderation or something along those lines. If a forum can't maintain health with the funds Google pays them to run "their" ads it's their own fault for living beyond their means or being greedy, it really is as simple as that. There are thousands of much larger forums on the web that operate on very little costs.

Thank you for the feedback.. I will try to touch on some of this--

I have the same goals for this forum that I had when I created it back in 2004:

1. It needs to be a place that is helpful and relieves the workload on me answering questions via email
2. It needs to be able to pay for itself via ads, premier memberships, etc.

Nothing has changed there.

We have maintained about 20-30 new members per day for the last umpteen years so those are the metrics and trends by which I decide if something has gone awry with the ability to read and/or view the forum.

I don't like the ads either but I also have goal number 2 that must be met. (for the record, you do not see a "Premier Member" badge next to my name in the forum. I use and view the forum with ads turned on just like many of you.)

The latest update, which was necessary, created some changes with the current theme but those are being worked on and while things don't happen as quickly as we like, they will happen soon.

My last point is that premier memberships are something we did in response to those who don't like the ads and want to turn them off however, there is absolutely no obligation.. it's there if you want it, otherwise it can be ignored

Based on comments I see every week, most people who have decided to sign up for it love the browsing with no ads.

We now have given you the option to purchase memberships monthly as well as 1, 2 and 3 years or a lifetime membership.

Let me know if you have further questions about any of this and I will do my best to answer.

I appreciate all of you who help out day to day in this forum.. it is what SMF has always been about and will continue that way.

Peace out

 

[dr k]

Thank you for the feedback.. I will try to touch on some of this--

I have the same goals for this forum that I had when I created it back in 2004:

1. It needs to be a place that is helpful and relieves the workload on me answering questions via email
2. It needs to be able to pay for itself via ads, premier memberships, etc.

Nothing has changed there.

We have maintained about 20-30 new members per day for the last umpteen years so those are the metrics and trends by which I decide if something has gone awry with the ability to read and/or view the forum.

I don't like the ads either but I also have goal number 2 that must be met. (for the record, you do not see a "Premier Member" badge next to my name in the forum. I use and view the forum with ads turned on just like many of you.)

The latest update, which was necessary, created some changes with the current theme but those are being worked on and while things don't happen as quickly as we like, they will happen soon.

My last point is that premier memberships are something we did in response to those who don't like the ads and want to turn them off however, there is absolutely no obligation.. it's there if you want it, otherwise it can be ignored

Based on comments I see every week, most people who have decided to sign up for it love the browsing with no ads.

We now have given you the option to purchase memberships monthly as well as 1, 2 and 3 years or a lifetime membership.

Let me know if you have further questions about any of this and I will do my best to answer.

I appreciate all of you who help out day to day in this forum.. it is what SMF has always been about and will continue that way.

Peace out

I use my phone on SMF and there is only one ad that doesn't scroll away or is in the background. The Muesela ad is an ad that is in motion that grows up in the foreground over the up/down touch arrows and dispenses lotion obstructing the navigation of the site in the screen shot below. I have no problems with ignoring ads. I was wondering if you can select ads that don't obstruct/inhibit the navigation of SMF? So I don't have to down flick 10xs to get to the top of the page which is different than ignoring ads.

 

[forktender]

I use my phone on SMF and there is only one ad that doesn't scroll away or is in the background. The Muesela ad is an ad that is in motion that grows up in the foreground over the up/down touch arrows and dispenses lotion obstructing the navigation of the site in the screen shot below. I have no problems with ignoring ads. I was wondering if you can select ads that don't obstruct/inhibit the navigation of SMF? So I don't have to down flick 10xs to get to the top of the page which is different than ignoring ads.
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The same ad blocks out my screen when viewing on my phone. I totally get the decision to bring the google ad package onboard, the ads don't bother me just the ones/one that covers the whole post and won't let you scroll past it.
That one needs to go, there is a way to do I know this because the same thing was happening on one of the fishing forums I use. Besides that ad and the poem style formatting issues I love this site everyone is friendly and helpful and that is rare these days.

Thank you for the updates TulsaJeff .

Dan

 

[dr k]

The same ad blocks out my screen when viewing on my phone. I totally get the decision to bring the google ad package onboard, the ads don't bother me just the ones/one that covers the whole post and won't let you scroll past it.
That one needs to go, there is a way to do I know this because the same thing was happening on one of the fishing forums I use. Besides that ad and the poem style formatting issues I love this site everyone is friendly and helpful and that is rare these days.

Thank you for the updates TulsaJeff .

Dan

I'd rather ignore more ads but dump the one or two that interfere with accessing functions to navigate back to the top of the page. I was a premier member a year and that was to avoid the five virus scareware/malware embedded in an ad that redirected me to that message on my ph saying I have five viruses and to click to remove which I never did but had to become a premier member to get away from this redirecting. After a year when my premier membership expired it was resolved and I haven't been a premier member for a couple years and now just these newer one or two ads that cover function touch arrows, back to the top of the page keys. Like I mentioned I'd rather have this site packed with more ads and remove the rogue one that appears to be only with phone viewers.