D-day June 6 1944 never forget

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Great reading all of your family stories. Always wondered why most soldiers dont talk of their wars much, then it occurred to me that combat is usually pure hell. You have to be in a "special" mental space to actually enjoy it. WW2 was a little bit refined from WW1, but both were human meat grinders for any combat soldiers. Men HAD to block their visions from their minds or lose their minds and they needed to hold their shiznit together for their families.

I always wonder how that changed in modern combat and why PTSD became so prevalent; where WW2 soldiers simply went silent, kept their heads up for the most part and pressed on until they died (or die, 66K WW2 vets are still alive). It obviously always existed, but why was the greatest generation able to hold it together? The gore never leaves your mind. What happened to us as people that we can no longer cope like that?

I worked in a job that people cant imagine. Dealt with travel and bieng away from home, some human remains (not combat), etc., and I can attest that it's weird when you come home and the world was still turning while you were gone. Your own family can barely fathom what you might try to describe, and in reality, they are just living their day to day life, whether you're there or not. It's almost like what you did doesn't matter...at least to anyone who wasn't there with you. It must be the weirdest thing for combat veterans.
My guess PTSD isnt more prevalent now it's just much better understood and accepted. alot more programs to help these people fight through what ever they are fighting. I think back in the world wars it was called shell shocked and probably wasnt much help these soldiers could get for it, and probably looked down at by society a little or labeled crazy. So yes they probably just went silent and went on with their lives the best they could. Growing up in a small town I knew quite a few ww2 combat vets and the only time I would hear them talk about it was at a local bar where they would meet and have some drinks together and talk about some of the stuff they went through. Like you mentioned they probably felt like they could talk between themselves because they could relate to each other.
 
Lots of great posts and sharing.

My father served in the Hawaiian Islands during WWII. His service photo was unique as they wore pith helmets and not the typical brain bucket. He was the forward observer for a shore defense battery and carried a BAR. Side duty was one of the barbers at the port. They supported the Army, Navy, and Merchant Marines that came in to Pearl. He mentioned the strafing holes of the barracks at Hickman field pointed to the strategic attack on a Sunday morning.
2 of his brothers also served in WWII. Third younger was a pilot in Army Air Corp in Europe. He flew P-51 reconnaissance. Looking for the photos of his damaged aircraft, but they were always a sorte (exit) meaning he got home. Forth younger brother was in the signal corp and also in Europe.
Fifth and youngest brother served during Korea.

These are the forgotten heroes.
Second youngest brother was exempt to stay at home on the family farm.
That was a challenge to keep the farm afloat with so many men called to service. The strength of neighbors working together got the crops harvested and the livestock fed for the winter.
My dad got home one afternoon , peeked in the mailbox and spotted a letter from the US Army. Said he closed the box and went straight to the Navy recruitment center and joined. He also had 2 brothers in the Navy and 1 in Army.
He was aboard an LST and at the beach.
Didn't speak much of it other than he was blessed to be in that position.

Keith
Father-in-Law was in the Navy and served in the Mediterranean. Crewman on one of the various landing crafts. When the they made the assault of Italy, He watched the previous landing craft he served take a direct artillery hit. Loaded with gasoline it went up and killed all aboard.
Odd coincidence is father-in-law was also a unit barber.
 
I think one of the challenges between returning from WWII and Vietnam Nam was in WWII, it took months to get home on a ship. Guys had a chance to talk with each other and possibly begin a transition. They were welcomed home. In Vietnam Nam, you could be rotated out and home in a week on a plane to a sometimes hostile reception. The guys I worked with couldn’t transition that fast. In helicopters, they all saw significant action. In time, they all suffered and had little to no support.
 
Lots of great posts and sharing.

My father served in the Hawaiian Islands during WWII. His service photo was unique as they wore pith helmets and not the typical brain bucket. He was the forward observer for a shore defense battery and carried a BAR. Side duty was one of the barbers at the port. They supported the Army, Navy, and Merchant Marines that came in to Pearl. He mentioned the strafing holes of the barracks at Hickman field pointed to the strategic attack on a Sunday morning.
2 of his brothers also served in WWII. Third younger was a pilot in Army Air Corp in Europe. He flew P-51 reconnaissance. Looking for the photos of his damaged aircraft, but they were always a sorte (exit) meaning he got home. Forth younger brother was in the signal corp and also in Europe.
Fifth and youngest brother served during Korea.

These are the forgotten heroes.
Second youngest brother was exempt to stay at home on the family farm.
That was a challenge to keep the farm afloat with so many men called to service. The strength of neighbors working together got the crops harvested and the livestock fed for the winter.

Father-in-Law was in the Navy and served in the Mediterranean. Crewman on one of the various landing crafts. When the they made the assault of Italy, He watched the previous landing craft he served take a direct artillery hit. Loaded with gasoline it went up and killed all aboard.
Odd coincidence is father-in-law was also a unit barber.

My Dad had two older brothers, who I think got the farm labor exemption from the draft board. Or the oldest might've had established his own farm by 1941, I'm not sure how that went down. He had another older brother who served.

In my Dad's momentos, he kept a letter my Grandad wrote to the local draft board trying to get Dad exempted from the draft. In the letter, he explained the entire operation of the farm and how he needed Dad. Did not convince the draft board, but reading the letter now, his farm was very interesting.

Dad was drafted in to the Army Air Corp and went through mechanic's school and was certified B-25 mechanic. But he volunteered for gunnery school and went to war in a B-17. He got a promotion from Corporal to Tech Sargeant and a big raise in pay to be a gunner.
 
I think one of the challenges between returning from WWII and Vietnam Nam was in WWII, it took months to get home on a ship. Guys had a chance to talk with each other and possibly begin a transition. They were welcomed home. In Vietnam Nam, you could be rotated out and home in a week on a plane to a sometimes hostile reception. The guys I worked with couldn’t transition that fast. In helicopters, they all saw significant action. In time, they all suffered and had little to no support.

We had a Memorial Day gathering one year and I put up a big POW-MIA banner on the side of the house. One of the guests was a Vietnam vet. He seemed like one of the guys that never got right again after coming back. I casually mentioned never forgetting those that didn't make it back. He said "what about the ones that did?". I think I got his point...

He and another guy we used to have dinners with (husbands and wives) were big on war machines, guns, reenactment, etc.. Trying to relate and be relevant in the conversation I spoke of my guns and my AK-47. Same guy said, "yea, they are a terrible sound when they are aimed AT YOU".

Sometimes I have the sense of a bag of hammers and need to STHU and listen more. Both guys are dead now, so no more listening opportunities...
 
Sometimes I have the sense of a bag of hammers and need to STHU and listen more. Both guys are dead now, so no more listening opportunities...
I‘m afraid you may not be the only person to realize this. At least you are aware of it. That matters.
 
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