Anyone Know Anything about Surge Protectors?

[Steve H]

Lighting strike took out one channel of bedroom AVR and took out a very expensive AVR in living room. I had those protectors from Dish Network. I put an old AVR in to get by and looking for a new one now. Glad it did not get my new TV! I had to unplug and re-plug several things. I have to step up my surge protects. I looking at a ESP Next Gen Surge Protector/Noise Filter/Power Monitor (Model# XG-PCS-15D) 120 Volt, 15 Amp but know nothing about these things.

Nevermind......

 

[Chris_in_SoCal]

Before I retired we had an location with around 40 computers. We had decent surge strips on all but one classroom of 20 computers. In there 1/2 the room had them and the other half didn't.

The office go hit. Every computer with a surge strip killed the surge strip itself but the computers were fine. The one side of the classroom that wasn't protected killed every computer and monitor.

Even surge strips save equipment.

At home all my network equipment, security cameras and computers have a battery backup with surge protection. Everything else of value is running off a surge strip.

 

[BrianGSDTexoma]

Nevermind......

So what where you thinking Steve?

 

[Mike Duty]

Lighting strike took out one channel of bedroom AVR and took out a very expensive AVR in living room. I had those protectors from Dish Network. I put an old AVR in to get by and looking for a new one now. Glad it did not get my new TV! I had to unplug and re-plug several things. I have to step up my surge protects. I looking at a ESP Next Gen Surge Protector/Noise Filter/Power Monitor (Model# XG-PCS-15D) 120 Volt, 15 Amp but know nothing about these things.

With a lighting strike a surge protector is not going to slow it down. My Company will not install surge protectors

 

[zwiller]

they removed my ground wire to rod.

I am scratching my head on that one. VERY curious if your issues are related to that.

Most expensive electronic thing I have is office copier. $45k. It's leased. Leasing co required UPS. Office server is critical yet cheap and is on UPS. Over the years I've talked with pros in this field by people I trust that UPS is the best practical thing for protection but is NOT 100%. Cool part is UPS are pretty cheap now. No joking at all, the solution to 100% is easy. Unplug ANYTHING you don't want to risk. Back when I had no kids I bought a nice TV and I simply unplugged it when it stormed. Got in the habit of unplugging it when going top bed. Still have it.

 

[jcam222]

I've seen a few in the past that offered a hefty amount of $$ if it didn't protect against lightning strikes. Not sure how hard it would be to actually collect.

 

[02ebz06]

For lightning strikes, you would need one with a very high Joules rating.

 

[Steve H]

So what where you thinking Steve?

I was going to ask some questions before I saw that someone else already asked them.

 

[Steve H]

For lightning strike protection. One of the best things to use is a isolation transformer. Or a device that contains one.

 

[Steve H]

I am scratching my head on that one. VERY curious if your issues are related to that.

Most expensive electronic thing I have is office copier. $45k. It's leased. Leasing co required UPS. Office server is critical yet cheap and is on UPS. Over the years I've talked with pros in this field by people I trust that UPS is the best practical thing for protection but is NOT 100%. Cool part is UPS are pretty cheap now. No joking at all, the solution to 100% is easy. Unplug ANYTHING you don't want to risk. Back when I had no kids I bought a nice TV and I simply unplugged it when it stormed. Got in the habit of unplugging it when going top bed. Still have it.

Higher end UPS devices have either a built in isolation transformer. Or powers the equipment through the battery regardless if there is a power loss or not. In the event that you suffer a lightning strike. The battery and its components take the hit. And, you are correct. Nothing is 100% with a hit.

 

[bmudd14474]

Get a battery backup with avr(automatic voltage regulating). It will have pure sine wave output aka no noise to need filtering. I have used the monser high-end surge with noise reduction on my Onkyo 898 and it protected it thru some bug surges. The monstor has kelvar sleeves over the comparator so if they blow from a surge it suppresses a fire.

 

[Steve H]

Get a battery backup with avr(automatic voltage regulating). It will have pure sine wave output aka no noise to need filtering. I have used the monser high-end surge with noise reduction on my Onkyo 898 and it protected it thru some bug surges. The monstor has kelvar sleeves over the comparator so if they blow from a surge it suppresses a fire.

The ones I know have simulated pure sine. The no noise is usually created from the 1/1 transformer with a filter. Though, I've been out of touch for a few years.

 

[bmudd14474]

Steve H I do hear what you are saying.

For the price point of his equipment Id do something like this

https://amzn.to/45kychJ

This has the LiPePO4 battery in it which IMO is a bonus.

You could also go with a cheaper UPS/AVR and couple it with https://amzn.to/4mC0t9X or this https://amzn.to/3UvC35m.

You do not need the AVR/UPS but what I like about it is that the power comes in to the unit then goes thru the battery and conditioning that way all output power is conditioned and you have a constant voltage with little to no spikes. If you just want surge and conditioning then either of the 2 I listed would work great.

 

[hoity toit]

Lighting strike took out one channel of bedroom AVR and took out a very expensive AVR in living room. I had those protectors from Dish Network. I put an old AVR in to get by and looking for a new one now. Glad it did not get my new TV! I had to unplug and re-plug several things. I have to step up my surge protects. I looking at a ESP Next Gen Surge Protector/Noise Filter/Power Monitor (Model# XG-PCS-15D) 120 Volt, 15 Amp but know nothing about these things.

Get a lighting arrestor installed at your meter loop location and use surge protectors downstream from that. Still if the lightning or surge are large enough they may not be able to clamp the energy but it sure will lessen the possibility of it. RETIRED MASTER ELECTRICIAN AND TEXAS ELECTRICAL CONTRACTOR here. Hope this helps..


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[Steve H]

You do not need the AVR/UPS but what I like about it is that the power comes in to the unit then goes thru the battery and conditioning that way all output power is conditioned and you have a constant voltage with little to no spikes. If you just want surge and conditioning then either of the 2 I listed would work great.

Yup. I mentioned that in post 30.

 

[BrianGSDTexoma]

I am scratching my head on that one. VERY curious if your issues are related to that.

I forgot I had house re-sided and wire should be under there. Oncor suppose to send somebody out to check it.

 

[BrianGSDTexoma]

whole home surge protector

By the time I got around to ordering they where out of stock. I found another and have it ordered alone with a 50 amp breaker. Also got that ESP Next Gen Surge Protector. Probably need another for gaming pc. I really dont want to pay full amount for the AVR's I want. They are crazy high. I can step down a model and get for half what the one I had cost but really dont want to step down. I have a old system in for now that not very good but guess I will deal with it until a sale comes around.

 

[BrianGSDTexoma]

I still working on this. Hoping Labor day will have some good sales for AVR and surge protector. Me being me and trying to save some money I ordered that Esp one from ebay, new open box. Well it was old and had 350 surges on it. The place with the whole house one was out of stock. Well I ordered from another place and it coming from over sea's. Still not shipped. I am now looking at the UPS's mentioned. Have to really watch my money for another 18 months until I get off this Affordable Health Care and can start taking IRA withdraws!