159f ok?

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johnredcorn

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Jan 23, 2023
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I smoked a turkey breast,and finished in the oven barded with bacon.i fell asleep and when i awoke it was at 158 so i took it out thinking it would cook itself to 165,well its been resting for a while and i dont want to reheat it....is 159-160 ok for internal temp?
 
Its fine,in fact it seemed a tad overdone.... the meat therm is off a bit i would guess.next time im pulling @150f using the same therm.
 

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150 5 min, 155 1 min, 165 3 sec. Are we getting sick from eating even under cooked chxn?, virtually never. Are we over cooking? We are overcooking the crap out of food! Are we getting inoculated from washing, bumping, spraying water from washing and cross contaminating cutting boards, utensils, counter tops, walls, floors from not having a plan with bad prep practices putting meats over salads in the fridge vs below and not preparing non cooked before raw chxy juices all over the place and getting ourselves sick? Yes, Yes that's the reality. People say, I don't feel so well after a days preparing when I went out and smoked a raw chxy juice soaked filtered cigarette because I didn't wash my hands. Yup! We still get crisper drawers for uncooked food at the lowest level in new refrigerators vs commercial. Dark chxn needs to cook 175*+ just to get tender and come off the bone. Breast meat only Chef's pull at 155 IT max.

So below you can see we have two federal agencies controlling food because they are NOT in alignment with each other so FSIS gets 7 log 10 reduction in Poultry 10,000,000 to 1 with Salmonella and FDA gets 6.5 log reduction beef Lamb and pork 3.1 million to one with Salmonella, 100,000/1 E coli and 1,000,000/1 Listeria. FSIS grades Beef if it's not Angus qualified chosen by the rancher. So you see that 145 is the 4 min hold we all have seen for beef. But the ground beef at 160 is pure BS because when the duration is zero you just left that log reduction and went to a HIGHER pasterurization level so at 158 the FDA wants use to overcook higher because 160 is easier to remember. Look at 150 fror 60 sec on a burger. After all it'll carryover. Looking at numbers in temp/time eliminates debating dialogue. But these two Federal Agencies are full of S..t! Follow their charts not their words...... They aren't. I go by their 12% poultry fat because it's their longest duration at that temp. Quit listening to words and follow the math that has been done for us in the charts. Quit over cooking your food so it's very juicy like you've never experienced it before.

C. Government Pasteurization Tables​

The pasteurization times for beef, lamb and pork are listed in Table C.1. Table C.2 lists the pasteurization times for chicken and turkey.

TemperatureTimeTemperatureTime
°F (°C)(Minutes)°F (°C)(Seconds)
130 (54.4)112 min146 (63.3)169 sec
131 (55.0)89 min147 (63.9)134 sec
132 (55.6)71 min148 (64.4)107 sec
133 (56.1)56 min149 (65.0)85 sec
134 (56.7)45 min150 (65.6)67 sec
135 (57.2)36 min151 (66.1)54 sec
136 (57.8)28 min152 (66.7)43 sec
137 (58.4)23 min153 (67.2)34 sec
138 (58.9)18 min154 (67.8)27 sec
139 (59.5)15 min155 (68.3)22 sec
140 (60.0)12 min156 (68.9)17 sec
141 (60.6)9 min157 (69.4)14 sec
142 (61.1)8 min158 (70.0)0 sec
143 (61.7)6 min
144 (62.2)5 min
145 (62.8)4 min
Table C.1: Pasteurization times for beef, corned beef, lamb, pork and cured pork (FDA, 2009, 3-401.11.B.2).
TemperatureTimeTimeTimeTimeTimeTime
°F (°C)1% fat3% fat5% fat7% fat9% fat12% fat
136 (57.8)64 min65.7 min68.4 min71.4 min74.8 min81.4 min
137 (58.3)51.9 min52.4 min54.3 min56.8 min59.7 min65.5 min
138 (58.9)42.2 min42.7 min43.4 min45.3 min47.7 min52.9 min
139 (59.4)34.4 min34.9 min35.4 min36.2 min38.3 min43 min
140 (60.0)28.1 min28.5 min29 min29.7 min30.8 min35 min
141 (60.6)23 min23.3 min23.8 min24.4 min25.5 min28.7 min
142 (61.1)18.9 min19.1 min19.5 min20.1 min21.1 min23.7 min
143 (61.7)15.5 min15.7 min16.1 min16.6 min17.4 min19.8 min
144 (62.2)12.8 min12.9 min13.2 min13.7 min14.4 min16.6 min
145 (62.8)10.5 min10.6 min10.8 min11.3 min11.9 min13.8 min
146 (63.3)8.7 min8.7 min8.9 min9.2 min9.8 min11.5 min
148 (64.4)5.8 min5.8 min5.9 min6.1 min6.5 min7.7 min
150 (65.6)3.8 min3.7 min3.7 min3.9 min4.1 min4.9 min
152 (66.7)2.3 min2.3 min2.3 min2.3 min2.4 min2.8 min
154 (67.8)1.5 min1.5 min1.5 min1.5 min1.5 min1.6 min
156 (68.9)59 sec59.5 sec1 min1 min1 min1 min
158 (70.0)38.8 sec39.2 sec39.6 sec40 sec40.3 sec40.9 sec
160 (71.1)25.6 sec25.8 sec26.1 sec26.3 sec26.6 sec26.9 sec
162 (72.2)16.9 sec17 sec17.2 sec17.3 sec17.5 sec17.7 sec
164 (73.3)11.1 sec11.2 sec11.3 sec11.4 sec11.5 sec11.7 sec
166 (74.4)0 sec0 sec0 sec0 sec0 sec0 sec
Table C.2: Pasteurization times for a 7D reduction in Salmonella for chicken and turkey (FSIS, 2005).
 
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