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Cure info.

CURES - Cures are used in sausage products for color and flavor development as well as retarding the development of bacteria in the low temperature environment of smoked meats.
Salt and sugar both cure meat by osmosis. In addition to drawing the water from the food, they dehydrate and kill the bacteria that make food spoil. In general, though, use of the word "cure" refers to processing the meat with either sodium nitrite or sodium nitrate.
The primary and most important reason to use cures is to prevent BOTULISM POISONING (Food poisoning). It is very important that any kind of meat or sausage that will be cooked and smoked at low temperature be cured. To trigger botulism poisoning, the requirements are quite simple - lack of oxygen, the presence of moisture, and temperatures in range of 40-140° F. When smoking meats, the heat and smoke eliminates the oxygen. The meats have moisture and are traditionally smoked and cooked in the low ranges of 90 to 185° F. As you can see, these are ideal conditions for food poisoning if you don't use cures. There are two types of commercially used cures.

Prague Powder #1
Also called Insta-Cure and Modern Cure. Cures are used to prevent meats from spoiling when being cooked or smoked at low temperatures (under 200 degrees F). This cure is 1 part sodium nitrite (6.25%) and 16 parts salt (93.75%) and are combined and crystallized to assure even distribution. As the meat temperate rises during processing, the sodium nitrite changes to nitric oxide and starts to ‘gas out’ at about 130 degrees F. After the smoking /cooking process is complete only about 10-20% of the original nitrite remains. As the product is stored and later reheated for consumption, the decline of nitrite continues. 4 ounces of Prague powder #1 is required to cure 100 lbs of meat. A more typical measurement for home use is 1 level tsp per 5 lbs of meat. Mix with cold water, then mix into meat like you would mix seasonings into meat.

Prague Powder #2
Used to dry-cure products. Prague powder #2 is a mixture of 1 part sodium nitrite, .64 parts sodium nitrate and 16 parts salt. (1 oz. of sodium nitrite with .64 oz. of sodium nitrate to each lb. of salt.) It is primarily used in dry-curing Use with products that do not require cooking, smoking, or refrigeration. This cure, which is sodium nitrate, acts like a time release, slowly breaking down into sodium nitrite, then into nitric oxide. This allows you to dry cure products that take much longer to cure. A cure with sodium nitrite would dissipate too quickly. Use 1 oz. of cure for 25 lbs. of meat or 1 level teaspoon of cure for 5 lbs. of meat when mixing with meat. When using a cure in a brine solution, follow a recipe.
 
The recipe you used looks to me like a cooked semi-dry style summer sausage that will not be shelf stable.
I’ll just vacuum seal it up and refrigerate it then. I really appreciate your help today! :) Do you have a good shelf stable SS recipe I can use the next time we get a deer??
 
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Summer Sausage - An American semi-dry fermented sausage, made of pork and beef, although sausages made from beef alone are common. The sausage was made in the winter time and after drying and storing it was consumed in the summer when working in the field. Summer sausage displays a long shelf life without refrigeration.
 
Sorry our internet is in and out because of the hurricane.

Summer Sausage - An American semi-dry fermented sausage, made of pork and beef, although sausages made from beef alone are common. The sausage was made in the winter time and after drying and storing it was consumed in the summer when working in the field. Summer sausage displays a long shelf life without refrigeration.
Oh my yes I seen that! Hope all are safe! Do you have a recipe for a good shelf stable SS I can use when we get another deer? :)
 
I’ll just vacuum seal it up and refrigerate it then. I really appreciate your help today! :) Do you have a good shelf stable SS recipe I can use the next time we get a deer??

Your cellar looks pretty good for hanging. This is a process, if you rush the process your SS will not be as you would like. If you would like to get close to a traditional old style SS i would get some ECA.
Encapsulated Citric Acid. This will not make a real traditional SS but you will be close and you wont need all the bactoferm agents.

ECA INFO
Citric Acid
Use Citric Acid when making semi-dried summer sausage, pepperoni, snack sticks & thuringer. Produces that old time tangy taste.

  • Encapsulated to release on temperature rise (141-147 degrees)
  • Provides controlled acidity & release of tart taste
  • Prevents stiffing of cured meat products
  • 3 oz. to 25 lb. of meat for a ph of 4.9
  • To be added to the mix after the grind as not to rupture the capsules
 
I’ll just vacuum seal it up and refrigerate it then. I really appreciate your help today! :) Do you have a good shelf stable SS recipe I can use the next time we get a deer??

Safe plan putting in the refrigerator. You could put them in a paper bag, or wrap with unlined kraft paper and they will continue to dry out slowly, yet still be safe because of the cold temperatures.
 
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One more clarification...
Be sure to use the Encapsulated Citric Acid and not powdered citric acid used for canning tomatoes and such. The ECA has a vegetable oil coating that keeps the citric acid from reacting with the meat before the meat has set from the heat. The capsule melts around 130-135*F and releases the citric acid after the bind has set. If you use regular powdered citric acid the meat will turn to mush from the extremely low pH and will not bind....
 
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One more clarification...
Be sure to use the Encapsulated Citric Acid and not powdered citric acid used for canning tomatoes and such. The ECA has a vegetable oil coating that keeps the citric acid from reacting with the meat before the meat has set from the heat. The capsule melts around 130-135*F and releases the citric acid after the bind has set. If you use regular powdered citric acid the meat will turn to mush from the extremely low pH and will not bind....
Thanks! I did individually wrap them. I usually use lemon juice when canning my tomato sauce, but I appreciate the heads for sure!!
blessings!
 
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Here is a SS recipie i have used before. You can use venison.

weights are in grams

700g beef chuck
300g ground pork butt
23g non iodized salt
2.5g cure 1
10g dextrose
5g sugar
3g black pepper
2g coriander
4g mustard seed
2g ground allspice
3.5g garlic (1 clove minced)
0.24g F-LC Safepro Bactoferm (FLC INFO BELOW)
Fibrous SS casings in your choice diameter.

Safepro™ F-LC - Pediococcus Acidilactici (Lactic Acid - Fast Ferment), Lactobacillus Curvatus (Lactic Acid - Acid Production) and Staphylococcus Xylosus (Curing - Flavor & Color)
This culture can produce a slow traditional acidification product at low temps. (Less than 77° F) or a fast U.S. style fermented product at higher temps. (95°F-115°F).

An excellent product that has built in protection against listeria which is useful when making product at home where conditions are often poorer than at a commercial processor

How to use: Dilute with 1 cup of chlorine free water and let sit for 20 minutes to "Wake Up" the bacteria. When using a cure (# 1 or # 2) mix the cure with this culture. Mix all seasoning and spices into meat, then add this culture at a rate of 25 g to 200 lb of meat.

For small batches dilute 1/2 tsp. of culture into 1/2 cup of chlorine free water.
 
These guys are the best I know of on the subject of Dry Sausages. I handle Safety issues. Your Husband will be fine. The small and proper amount of Cure #2 will have no detrimental effect. Welcome to SMF...JJ
 
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